IOWA STATE TO BIG TEN?!? Dave Wannstedt thinks so.

[ISUAgronomist]

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Big Ten unlikely to expand
Perhaps the most notable big-picture takeaway was that the Big Ten appears committed to not expanding. Obviously, nothing was signed. But it’s hard to believe that the presidents and chancellors would agree to this extended Kumbaya chorus if the Big Ten planned on poaching a few Pac-12 schools or breaking the ACC’s grant of rights in the next year or two.

That could all change if the league’s alphas – Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin – change course. But for now, the hymn of solidarity is being sung loudly. When asked specifically if this meant the Big Ten had no interest in expansion, commissioner Kevin Warren told Yahoo Sports: “We feel very comfortable in the Big Ten that we’re in good position where we are.”

He added: “We feel like we have an incredibly powerful group of 14 institutions. We like the number where are right now in the Big Ten.”

Every conference that has expanded previously said that the last time. It's all about avoiding lawsuits if they invite new members that express interest in joining.

 

[BCClone]

Another article saying the Big 10 isn’t going to expand. It’s all just a guessing game at this point.

Read who wrote it. Yahoo is crap.

 

[StLouisClone]

Wannstedt could be right. If Tech, TCU and Baylor are the ones left out, then the Big 12 won't have enough votes to dissolve. That would put the onus back on OuT and the SEC to either settle with the R8 or offer 1-3 more invites to the SEC. We will find out soon enough what the Pac 12 intends to do.

 

[madguy30]

I’m not rich but you can’t pay me enough to read stories about this. I’ve read none and will read none.

Did you read the one about Dave Wannstedt?

 

[Cyclones1969]

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Big Ten unlikely to expand
Perhaps the most notable big-picture takeaway was that the Big Ten appears committed to not expanding. Obviously, nothing was signed. But it’s hard to believe that the presidents and chancellors would agree to this extended Kumbaya chorus if the Big Ten planned on poaching a few Pac-12 schools or breaking the ACC’s grant of rights in the next year or two.

That could all change if the league’s alphas – Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin – change course. But for now, the hymn of solidarity is being sung loudly. When asked specifically if this meant the Big Ten had no interest in expansion, commissioner Kevin Warren told Yahoo Sports: “We feel very comfortable in the Big Ten that we’re in good position where we are.”

He added: “We feel like we have an incredibly powerful group of 14 institutions. We like the number where are right now in the Big Ten.”

Lord another one of these folks.

What are your inside sources telling you about expansion?

 

[SCNCY]

So you think OuT wasn't in contact with the SEC prior to 24hrs of notifying the Big XII?

They were l, they even admitted it has been in the works for 6 months. There are two ways the Big 12 can collect from Ou and Texas. 1) breaking conference rules, which I think is the 70 million each that has been thrown around. 2) breaking the GOR, which allows the Big 12to retain their media rights through 2025. As of right now, OU and Texas are staying until the end of the GOR. So only the first one is in play.

 

[CloneJD]

I think a few of the H8 know where they are going but are going to call ou and ut’s bluff that they intend to stay 3 more years. Make them formally withdraw early and invoke the damages clauses of the contract. Then make your move.

 

[cycloneworld]

I don’t think they plan on staying until 2025. They plan on the conference crumbling before then. Other teams finding a home and then announcing where they’re going but that they aren’t moving until 2025 would essentially be calling the bluff of OU/UT/SEC.

Yep, but that only happens if the landing spot makes sense. Which is why the AAC thing never made any sense. The remaining 8 would have been idiotic for dissolving the Big 12 and going to the AAC. With no soft landing spot, the Big 12 can drag this on and force huge buyouts if they really want to.

 

[HoopsTournament]

You do realize every legal contract can be changed and negotiated, right? If they go to the bargaining table and a settlement is reached they can agree to whatever they want and change or amend the contract. The only way is if one side does not agree, then the other side must sweeten the deal, and so on. That is how mediation works.

Yes, what part of my statement made you think I didn’t understand that?

 

[2speedy1]

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Big Ten unlikely to expand
Perhaps the most notable big-picture takeaway was that the Big Ten appears committed to not expanding. Obviously, nothing was signed. But it’s hard to believe that the presidents and chancellors would agree to this extended Kumbaya chorus if the Big Ten planned on poaching a few Pac-12 schools or breaking the ACC’s grant of rights in the next year or two.

That could all change if the league’s alphas – Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin – change course. But for now, the hymn of solidarity is being sung loudly. When asked specifically if this meant the Big Ten had no interest in expansion, commissioner Kevin Warren told Yahoo Sports: “We feel very comfortable in the Big Ten that we’re in good position where we are.”

He added: “We feel like we have an incredibly powerful group of 14 institutions. We like the number where are right now in the Big Ten.”

"Firmly Entrenched"

 

[Cyclones1969]

It's almost as if SECSPN is writing all of Thamel's talking points for him.

Read who wrote it. Yahoo is crap.

Weird, huh?

 

[dahliaclone]

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Big Ten unlikely to expand
Perhaps the most notable big-picture takeaway was that the Big Ten appears committed to not expanding. Obviously, nothing was signed. But it’s hard to believe that the presidents and chancellors would agree to this extended Kumbaya chorus if the Big Ten planned on poaching a few Pac-12 schools or breaking the ACC’s grant of rights in the next year or two.

That could all change if the league’s alphas – Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin – change course. But for now, the hymn of solidarity is being sung loudly. When asked specifically if this meant the Big Ten had no interest in expansion, commissioner Kevin Warren told Yahoo Sports: “We feel very comfortable in the Big Ten that we’re in good position where we are.”

He added: “We feel like we have an incredibly powerful group of 14 institutions. We like the number where are right now in the Big Ten.”

lol. I help draft messages for the public by CEOs weekly. What else is he gonna say at this point? It’s the smartest non quote yet public quote he can give.

 

[Hayes30]

No chance this happens. The angry 8 will settle, no one can afford to be in limbo for that long.

Those 2 will be gone by the 2022 Seasons

 

[2speedy1]

Yes, what part of my statement made you think I didn’t understand that?

I dont know, Just that you keep repeating that No one can leave before the GOR and any suggestion that they can is cause for someone to not understand the GOR.

There are plenty of ways, whether any of them happen who knows its all a guess RN. But if what Dave says here happens to be true there is a good chance everyone sits at the table and works out a deal before 2025, or maybe not. Who knows, but saying nothing can change the GoR is wrong.

 

[flycy]

I was one of them you referenced. I did misstate you in a past thread. Sorry about that. However, I think you are mistaken on the $14 million for OU and $14 million for UT. Some quotes below:

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"Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said on Monday that each remaining school in the league can expect to earn about $14 million less per year without the Sooners and Longhorns."

“Last year we distributed about $35 million in revenue,” Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby told Texas senators at the Aug. 2 Texas legislative hearing in reaction to OU’s and Texas’ move to the SEC. “Of that, $28 million was television revenue.” Bowlsby meant distributions to individual Big 12 members. So roughly $28 million in TV revenue to OU, Texas and Oklahoma State.

We estimate that OU and Texas participation in our television rights agreement is something approaching 50 percent of the value...” Bowlsby said. “So you can roughly look at at least $14 million per school in a new day without similar replacements for the two that are leaving.”
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I can see where you mentioned $14 million per team. But I think Bowslby meant "per team" as in the remaining schools. If it was $14 million for OU and $14 million for UT, then we are looking at $7 million ($35 million - $28 million) or $0 million ($28 million - $28 million) for the each school depending on how you look at it. That seems way too low.

Actually if Texas and Oklahoma account for 5o% of the 28 mil per team. That would leave 17.5 mil per team for the 8 reamaining.

$28 x 10 = $280
$280/2 = $140
$140/8 = $17.5

 

[HoopsTournament]

I dont know, Just that you keep repeating that No one can leave before the GOR and any suggestion that they can is cause for someone to not understand the GOR.

There are plenty of ways, whether any of them happen who knows its all a guess RN. But if what Dave says here happens to be true there is a good chance everyone sits at the table and works out a deal before 2025, or maybe not. Who knows, but saying nothing can change the GoR is wrong.

That is not what I said. I said that no one is going to leave while GOR is still in place. If a deal is worked out before 2025, GOR will no longer be in place. For that to happen, OU/UT will have to pay a huge amount of money.

Gonzo kept saying they would leave before settling and work it out later. That is not going to happen.

 

[Cydkar]

Did you read the one about Dave Wannstedt?

No.

 

[Cydkar]

I have heard some quotes from Paul Feinbaum and he pisses me off. Super obvious he works for the SEC network. He pretty much says continuously if you are not in the SEC, are Clemson, or Ohio State you are a joke.

He said that years ago. He’s Webster’s definition of a shill.

 

[2speedy1]

That is not what I said. I said that no one is going to leave while GOR is still in place. If a deal is worked out before 2025, GOR will no longer be in place. For that to happen, OU/UT will have to pay a huge amount of money.

Gonzo kept saying they would leave before settling and work it out later. That is not going to happen.

Oh, yes total agreement with ya there. No way anyone leaves until there is some form of exit agreement, but this is business, its not a breakup with your girlfriend. People will be adults, they will come to the table, more than likely they will come to an agreement. Maybe not, but I would tend to believe there will be a settlement of some sort.

 

[ISUTex]

Read who wrote it. Yahoo is crap.

Who is Pete Thamel, and who cares about his opinion?