Jared’s hot take on the FART

Trice

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I think you guys are overvaluing this. ISU was one of, if not the highest ranked two-loss team where we got beat by Louisiana. In 2019 ISU was initially the highest two-loss team in the CFP ranking after an OT win vs. mediocre UNI.

In the end the style points in this game are going to be dwarfed by the results vs. Iowa, OU, UT, Okie St., and the CCG.

Style points do matter. But the difference in winning 31-14 or 77-0 vs. UNI in week 1 is going to be non-existent by week 10.

I'm not sure what part of "nor should [Campbell] take his foot off the gas as he tends to do when we're up" leads you to believe I think we need to win 77-0.
 

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I'm not sure what part of "nor should [Campbell] take his foot off the gas as he tends to do when we're up" leads you to believe I think we need to win 77-0.

I think it would be good to be in the 50’s. This also helps Breece’s Heisman run. We need all the publicity we can get for the coming shitstorm of realignment.
 

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I'm not sure what part of "nor should [Campbell] take his foot off the gas as he tends to do when we're up" leads you to believe I think we need to win 77-0.
I didn't mean to suggest you thought that. I'm just disagreeing that style points are going to matter in the end and that ISU is has a higher standard in wins, style points vs. traditional powers. People keep suggesting this slight against ISU, and while that's certainly the case within media, beating UNI by 100 or 3 isn't going to change that. Maybe it affects the narrative for a week, but the outcome of the Iowa game will make any style points vs. UNI irrelevant.

More importantly, what really matters is the CFP, and ISU has been consistently one of, if not the highest ranked teams given its number of losses and typically low margin of victory and lack of style points. Now maybe this is the year that flips, but the CFP has been very good to ISU.
 

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I didn't mean to suggest you thought that. I'm just disagreeing that style points are going to matter in the end and that ISU is has a higher standard in wins, style points vs. traditional powers. People keep suggesting this slight against ISU, and while that's certainly the case within media, beating UNI by 100 or 3 isn't going to change that. Maybe it affects the narrative for a week, but the outcome of the Iowa game will make any style points vs. UNI irrelevant.

More importantly, what really matters is the CFP, and ISU has been consistently one of, if not the highest ranked teams given its number of losses and typically low margin of victory and lack of style points. Now maybe this is the year that flips, but the CFP has been very good to ISU.

As proof that this is untrue, I submit to you the Louisiana game, in which exactly zero critics bother to mention that we had Covid problems and yet is still to this day being held up as proof we don't belong, a full calendar year later after a season which featured a conference championship appearance and Fiesta Bowl win.

If you get the chance to hang 50 on UNI, you take it. Period.
 

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As proof that this is untrue, I submit to you the Louisiana game, in which exactly zero critics bother to mention that we had Covid problems and yet is still to this day being held up as proof we don't belong, a full calendar year later after a season which featured a conference championship appearance and Fiesta Bowl win.

If you get the chance to hang 50 on UNI, you take it. Period.

true.

but the covid problems weren’t exactly publicized by Campbell. I think CW is the only one that mentioned it snd it was late in the season.
 

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Jared’s hot take: I’d like to see ISU get the ball first and go on a 6 minute drive and just give them death by a thousand cuts all day.

BETTER IDEA: If ISU wants to make the playoff, we need to win every game by as much as possible. We need style points, we need huge stats and hype. I’d like to see us score as quickly and as much as possible. If it comes down to two 1 loss teams battling for a final final playoff spot we need to be the more hyped team if we’re going up against UGA, OU, etc.

I would like ISU to get 6 yard on their first run play and then on 2nd and 4 throw deep over the middle to the new improve Milton for a TD. So sick of ISU trying to grind it out against UNI with their 8 man front. This years team should be able to grind it out better than any in the past, but I would like to see some fireworks early instead of heroics late.
 

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If we win and it doesn't take an incredible fumble recovery by Purdy at the end of the game, I will be happy.
 

kcbob79clone

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Iowa would have made they playoff if MSU didn’t stomp them in the championship. If we go 11-1 with a big 12 championship we are in. No questions asked.
Not so fast! I'm nut cupped prepared for ISU in that scenario to be passed over by other 1 loss teams and maybe the first ever 2 loss team because except for OU/TX we played an AAC level of schedule. ESPN talking heads will be ragging on us all year and that will impact the selection committee.
 
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CySmurf

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Just win. The only poll that matters doesn't start until November when this game will be a distant memory.

Campbell doesn't run up the score (plus he and Farley get along really well because they're pretty much the same guy) and UNI plays a style that isn't real conducive to running it up against them.

Iowa State could be incredibly impressive and win 28-10. It's just how these two match up.
Campbell and Farley are NOT pretty much the same guy.
 

Trice

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true.

but the covid problems weren’t exactly publicized by Campbell. I think CW is the only one that mentioned it snd it was late in the season.

That's correct. And if there's some weird circumstance that mitigates a loss or a closer-than-expected win this season - something like injuries or a particularly egregious call that decides the game - Campbell needs to be prepared to do some politicking and help set the narrative. He probably finds it really unseemly but when you're in a sport whose playoff is decided subjectively, it's part of the game.
 

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Billy Napier had no problem scoring a late touchdown against us last year as coach of Louisiana. He could have taken a knee and let the clock run out. He stuck a hot poker up our ass and broke it off in us. It's ok to drill your opponents until the clock reads zero. especially against the hoks. Old Raisin Face had no problem leaving his starters in the whole game and scoring 50-60 points against us.


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ForeverIowan

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I'm not going to allow myself to go through this season worried about style points. With a preseason ranking of #7 Iowa State can go 11-1 with a win in the Big 12 conference title game. Do that and everything else will fall into place.
 

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Jared’s hot take: I’d like to see ISU get the ball first and go on a 6 minute drive and just give them death by a thousand cuts all day.

BETTER IDEA: If ISU wants to make the playoff, we need to win every game by as much as possible. We need style points, we need huge stats and hype. I’d like to see us score as quickly and as much as possible. If it comes down to two 1 loss teams battling for a final final playoff spot we need to be the more hyped team if we’re going up against UGA, OU, etc.
You started a thread for this...
 
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Uh, no they are not

Should have clarified. Off the field they are the same guy, not as coaches.

Humble, quiet family guys that came up through the lower levels without a ton of accolades that just grind. They both would rather sit in a room and break down film with coaches than go out and glad hand a fundraise.

Campbell is obviously the better coach. Did not mean to imply differently though Mark is going to end up with 200 wins and in the Hall of Fame. It's easy to look at Mark's shortcomings but his prolonged success is pretty remarkable.
 
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