*** Official Texas vs IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

cyatheart

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I’m not sure it’s ever going to change. Tom just doesn’t throw the ball down the field, and he doesn’t use the edges. He plays in a very small part of the field.
 

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Ah yes that is correct. So I will give the offense most of the credit. Point still stands, especially how bad WVU is on offense. Okie State gave up a whopping 3 points today.
Yeah WVU had like 130 yards today.
 
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How did the media miss judge the O line so badly in the off season?
its not just the offensive line.

have they under performed yes. without a doubt. but they have had 8 man, sometimes 9 man boxes (there are 5 of them) and even 7 when you add Allen / Rus and unless Kolar is blocking inside the box there is at worst one free defender. Not to mention there is a shocking level of disrespect shown to Purdy as a ball carrier that we have not taken advantage of enough IMO....

and no huge threat on the perimeter. We have one true game changer and he lines up in the backfield.

Unless you have 3-5 NFL caliber offensive linemen (early round guys not just a bunch of 6th round guys) you are not going to be able to maul people out of the way against consistent 8 man boxes or pass pro when EVERYTHING we do is either super slow developing on the ground , we never move the pocket....




we do absolutely NOTHING to help the offensive line.


1) Screens ? Rarely,
2) Draws? Rarely if ever.
3) Roll outs and boots to move the pocket? Occasionally to rare.
4) Seemingly go on multiple snap counts? Don't know, hard to tell on tv.
5) Have well scripted quick hitting plays? Ha-ha-ha.
6) Get the ball on the perimeter quickly to draw leverage and un-accounted for defenders out of the box? Rarely,
7) Have a quarterback who excels at getting rid of the ball quickly and decisively
8) Have a productive down field passing game to again draw the safeties and leveraged defenders away from the box which also makes line backers not rush down field on the snap like a bat out of hell because they're worried about getting to their drops at 10-12 yards or more depending on the coverage call.
9) Run to where the defense is not


Like I get it. The offensive line has been less than stellar... but how many of those 8 or 9 things to make the box cleaner and help the OL have we done tonight or any other night for that matter?

Unless you have a bunch of pro linemen .... and even then it's going to be hard. The offensive line has certainly underperformed...



but I'd argue we have done nothing to help them
 

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I’m not sure it’s ever going to change. Tom just doesn’t throw the ball down the field, and he doesn’t use the edges. He plays in a very small part of the field.
Need time and receivers for it to work. Still a coaching issue but not a play calling issue. I’m with you thought if they don’t at least show teams are going to stack against run and tight ends like they have in most our losses
 

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That WV comparison isn’t totally apples to apples. They wanted that game last week and completely shot their wad against us.
Sure they wanted it, and that played a part for sure. But their offense is fricking terrible, and our defense until that game was borderline elite when you look at the metrics, especially in the 2nd Half of games which is when WVU really did their damage.

You don't think our boys REALLY wanted to finally beat Iowa this year? Desire and effort only go so far sometimes. Defense **** the bed last week.
 

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I will never understand what happened with Purdy. Was it him? Was he over-coached? Did his time with the team just get stale? Such a peculiar case! I never would have imagined Purdy would be this ineffective this season. Honestly, Hall too!
 

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its not just the offensive line.

have they under performed yes. without a doubt. but they have had 8 man, sometimes 9 man boxes (there are 5 of them) and even 7 when you add Allen / Rus and unless Kolar is blocking inside the box there is at worst one free defender. Not to mention there is a shocking level of disrespect shown to Purdy as a ball carrier that we have not taken advantage of enough IMO....

and no huge threat on the perimeter. We have one true game changer and he lines up in the backfield.

Unless you have 3-5 NFL caliber offensive linemen (early round guys not just a bunch of 6th round guys) you are not going to be able to maul people out of the way against consistent 8 man boxes or pass pro when EVERYTHING we do is either super slow developing on the ground , we never move the pocket....




we do absolutely NOTHING to help the offensive line.


1) Screens ? Rarely,
2) Draws? Rarely if ever.
3) Roll outs and boots to move the pocket? Occasionally to rare.
4) Seemingly go on multiple snap counts? Don't know, hard to tell on tv.
5) Have well scripted quick hitting plays? Ha-ha-ha.
6) Get the ball on the perimeter quickly to draw leverage and un-accounted for defenders out of the box? Rarely,
7) Have a quarterback who excels at getting rid of the ball quickly and decisively
8) Have a productive down field passing game to again draw the safeties and leveraged defenders away from the box which also makes line backers not rush down field on the snap like a bat out of hell because they're worried about getting to their drops at 10-12 yards or more depending on the coverage call.
9) Run to where the defense is not


Like I get it. The offensive line has been less than stellar... but how many of those 8 or 9 things to make the box cleaner and help the OL have we done tonight or any other night for that matter?

Unless you have a bunch of pro linemen .... and even then it's going to be hard. The offensive line has certainly underperformed...



but I'd argue we have done nothing to help them

this is right, we play offense in a 10 yard square box

we do nothing to help them…8 guys in the box and we running off tackle
 
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I will never understand what happened with Purdy. Was it him? Was he over-coached? Did his time with the team just get stale? Such a peculiar case! I never would have imagined Purdy would be this ineffective this season. Honestly, Hall too!

hrs been really good outside of Iowa and this first half
 

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I’m not sure it’s ever going to change. Tom just doesn’t throw the ball down the field, and he doesn’t use the edges. He plays in a very small part of the field.

He is also not creative in the run game. Use the WR's in the run game some. At least bring them in motion slow down LB, DB pursuit.
 
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