Isheem Young enters transfer portal

[AuH2O]

Again, when has there ever not been a huge concentration of talent in the top 15 or so schools?

There always has been. However it was significantly higher prior to the scholarship reduction. This is like reversing the scholarship reduction, but on steroids.

Playing time, culture, all those things were a tough, but not impossible sell for a pretty solid recruit to go to a non-traditional power, but that was when there was financial parity. Now that financial parity is gone. Just the schools in FCS that offer full cost of attendance in very short order blew past those that offered tuition. We're talking a pretty small difference financially. NIL essentially eliminates scholarship limits and any semblance of financial parity.

Look, if someone is a college football fan but views it as playoff or meaningless probably sees this as probably not changing much. But since we are ISU fans, that probably is not our view. And because we don't have that binary view of CFB, we need to see where this pushes us on the continuum between "really hard to compete with bluebloods, but we can belong on the field in some seasons" to "completely ******* hopeless." I don't think we are to the latter, but NIL gives us a good shove toward that end of the spectrum in my opinion. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[BryceC]

There always has been. However it was significantly higher prior to the scholarship reduction. This is like reversing the scholarship reduction, but on steroids.

Playing time, culture, all those things were a tough, but not impossible sell for a pretty solid recruit to go to a non-traditional power, but that was when there was financial parity. Now that financial parity is gone. Just the schools in FCS that offer full cost of attendance in very short order blew past those that offered tuition. We're talking a pretty small difference financially. NIL essentially eliminates scholarship limits and any semblance of financial parity.

Look, if someone is a college football fan but views it as playoff or meaningless probably sees this as probably not changing much. But since we are ISU fans, that probably is not our view. And because we don't have that binary view of CFB, we need to see where this pushes us on the continuum between "really hard to compete with bluebloods, but we can belong on the field in some seasons" to "completely ******* hopeless." I don't think we are to the latter, but NIL gives us a good shove toward that end of the spectrum in my opinion. I hope I'm wrong.

Yeah I don't think this meaningfully changes how things from an ISU perspective, and I think it could actually help us in some cases. I hope you're wrong too, but I see the argument.

 

[Neptune78]

Our Transfer Portal on 247 now shows Young to Ole Miss.

The 'ole 'Hamilton closer to family' move.

 

[Mr Janny]

There always has been. However it was significantly higher prior to the scholarship reduction. This is like reversing the scholarship reduction, but on steroids.

Playing time, culture, all those things were a tough, but not impossible sell for a pretty solid recruit to go to a non-traditional power, but that was when there was financial parity. Now that financial parity is gone. Just the schools in FCS that offer full cost of attendance in very short order blew past those that offered tuition. We're talking a pretty small difference financially. NIL essentially eliminates scholarship limits and any semblance of financial parity.

Look, if someone is a college football fan but views it as playoff or meaningless probably sees this as probably not changing much. But since we are ISU fans, that probably is not our view. And because we don't have that binary view of CFB, we need to see where this pushes us on the continuum between "really hard to compete with bluebloods, but we can belong on the field in some seasons" to "completely ******* hopeless." I don't think we are to the latter, but NIL gives us a good shove toward that end of the spectrum in my opinion. I hope I'm wrong.

I don't buy that it effectively eliminates scholarship limits at all. How many 4-5 star players are walking on every year? It will be very easy to measure. How many transfers are the blue blood schools taking that are walking on?
NIL isn't perfect in it's current form, but effectively removing scholarship limits is not a problem it's creating. Not in a large enough scale to have any impact.

 

[Tornado man]

The 'ole 'Hamilton closer to family' move.

Did Young ever say that moving closer to PA was a desire? I missed that.

 

[AuH2O]

I don't buy that it effectively eliminates scholarship limits at all. How many 4-5 star players are walking on every year? It will be very easy to measure. How many transfers are the blue blood schools taking that are walking on?
NIL isn't perfect in it's current form, but effectively removing scholarship limits is not a problem it's creating. Not in a large enough scale to have any impact.

It isn’t eliminating limits, but could have the effect of essentially expanding the number of guys a team at the top can take that they wouldn’t be able to take otherwise. Maybe it won’t. I guess we will see over the next couple of years as teams get their NIL sea legs.

 

[Saul_T]

Did Young ever say that moving closer to PA was a desire? I missed that.

I think they were just joking. My assumption and that's literally all it is, is that he believes he's capable of playing at a high level and it's possible the Cyclones aren't going to be at that level next year. If he wants scout eyeballs, the SEC is probably a better option than Ames, Iowa for him.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I don't buy that it effectively eliminates scholarship limits at all. How many 4-5 star players are walking on every year? It will be very easy to measure. How many transfers are the blue blood schools taking that are walking on?
NIL isn't perfect in it's current form, but effectively removing scholarship limits is not a problem it's creating. Not in a large enough scale to have any impact.

I agree with you. I don't think NIL is a major issue either. The teams that are willing to push those NIL dollar figures are the same teams that were willing to push the rules when it wasn't legal. I used to think that NIL would give those second tier teams a chance since they weren't willing to cheat before even though they had the resources to do so. To this point, it doesn't seem as if that's the case. It seems as though that the bar simply changed levels and the same teams will be doing the same things. Sure, aTm won out this year but they weren't playing by the rules anyway and we are just going to continue to see SEC teams, with their deranged and craven fanbases swap places at the top. Michigan, OSU, or some other non-SEC team or two will make the playoffs and seem like really good teams, but then we will be treated to seeing the massive gap in rosters.

The free transfer situation is different. Yes, NIL may influence that at times but the root cause is not having to sit out. I think they should return to sit out's for anyone transferring to a P5 conference. If you're transferring from a P5 to something lower, then it can be free. That'd be good for college football and the students without fostering a "rich get richer" type of situation.

 

[CycloneKris11]

I know it won’t happen, but if Freyler filled out about another 10-15lbs for LB he would be deadly... Has the instincts.

 

[allfourcy]

I agree with you. I don't think NIL is a major issue either. The teams that are willing to push those NIL dollar figures are the same teams that were willing to push the rules when it wasn't legal. I used to think that NIL would give those second tier teams a chance since they weren't willing to cheat before even though they had the resources to do so. To this point, it doesn't seem as if that's the case. It seems as though that the bar simply changed levels and the same teams will be doing the same things. Sure, aTm won out this year but they weren't playing by the rules anyway and we are just going to continue to see SEC teams, with their deranged and craven fanbases swap places at the top. Michigan, OSU, or some other non-SEC team or two will make the playoffs and seem like really good teams, but then we will be treated to seeing the massive gap in rosters.

The free transfer situation is different. Yes, NIL may influence that at times but the root cause is not having to sit out. I think they should return to sit out's for anyone transferring to a P5 conference. If you're transferring from a P5 to something lower, then it can be free. That'd be good for college football and the students without fostering a "rich get richer" type of situation.

Free transfer is only 'once' in their career tho, correct?

 

[Cyforce]

I know it won’t happen, but if Freyler filled out about another 10-15lbs for LB he would be deadly... Has the instincts.

Star is the perfect position for Freyler.

 

[ISUcyclones11]

committed to Ole Miss

 

[Tre4ISU]

I know it won’t happen, but if Freyler filled out about another 10-15lbs for LB he would be deadly... Has the instincts.

What is everyone's infatuation with players that are good at one position gaining enough weight to play the one closer to the LOS?

Also, Young was the one with a LB skillset. I don't know what Ole Miss plays for a defense right now but I wouldn't be surprised if he lined up as a hybrid type of player.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Free transfer is only 'once' in their career tho, correct?

Yeah, but the issue is guys get to the point where they're coveted and then they leave.

 

[heitclone]

Good luck to him, that Ole Miss D though...yikes.

 

[enisthemenace]

committed to Ole Miss

Of all the transfers we had, this is the first one where the guy leaving landed in a program of equal (maybe slightly better) quality (VERY vague term). Everyone else went down a level (or more) in my opinion.

Just an observation. That’s all.

 

[Neptune78]

Did Young ever say that moving closer to PA was a desire? I missed that.

Too bad CyTwins has been banned. He could give us clarification on his initial comments.

 

[Cyrock18]

Of course it does. He's been rolling in top 300 recruits for years and NIL might upset that. Let's be absolutely real about his motivations here.

His words are a threat, he isn’t worried about other schools. He knows how to take advantage and will do so unless there’s regulations in place. He knows he’ll win more.

 

[NickTheGreat]

What is everyone's infatuation with players that are good at one position gaining enough weight to play the one closer to the LOS?

Also, Young was the one with a LB skillset. I don't know what Ole Miss plays for a defense right now but I wouldn't be surprised if he lined up as a hybrid type of player.

Just think about it. Gain another 75 lbs and he'd be a perfect DE to fill in the following year for McDonald.

 

[CloneGuy8]

Both things can be true. Freyler has the potential to be a better overall player next year than Young, and Young was a good player that likely would have started for us next year. If he improves his pass coverage, it will help his draft stock a lot.