I’m out. My interest in college sports was already waning with a growing family and other priorities and the NIL deal is pushing me further in that direction.
POLL: How much will you contribute to the collective
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I'll probably throw some in to start and monitor the results. Not sure of the amount at this point.
A couple of personal observations.
1. I do agree there are more worthy charitable endeavors but that was true prior to NIL.
2. I'd rather attempt to "save" ISU's competitiveness and fail as opposed to doing nothing and have regrets for not trying.
A couple of personal observations.
1. I do agree there are more worthy charitable endeavors but that was true prior to NIL.
2. I'd rather attempt to "save" ISU's competitiveness and fail as opposed to doing nothing and have regrets for not trying.
Don't worry the "Dumb Squad" on here will find something else to belittle you about. They seem to have no other purpose in life than to show everyone how superior they are by constantly attacking others over "opinions" they disagree with. I wish they would stick to the cave.
NIL payments should be on the backs of the people that gained something from the player’s NIL - athletic departments, businesses, television, etc. - not the fans who are already funding the entities already gaining something from their NIL.
Having said that, I voted for $1,000 as a max level; however, to do that I would have to reduce my Cyclone Club level which I’m not sold is the right thing to do yet.
Having said that, I voted for $1,000 as a max level; however, to do that I would have to reduce my Cyclone Club level which I’m not sold is the right thing to do yet.
Well yeah there's that to begin with. I'm just weighing what would possibly justify it.
No kidding. Admitting defeat and not giving will ensure being a loser. I simply said we should continue to try to be a winner.
The last I checked, there are still only 11 guys allowed to play at a time for FB and 5 for BB. Guys will still want to play no matter how much NIL money was thrown their way to get them on a team. College athletics is like an internship with the aim to get a future contract that will give them a career not a temporary monetary gain. We can still get high quality players even without the huge dollars that are rumored to being thrown at the top talent. Even more so if we can continue the recent trend of developing underrated players and putting them in the pros like Haliburton in BB and Montgomery in FB.
Now that's a better attitude.
The odds of getting these two players again goes down without an NIL program.
Agree. I love the spirit of NIL, not the fund model.
My gut thinks things will get regulated or adjusted, but until then it'll be "let's raise money....and now raise more money to keep up....and more money again..." model.
The bulk of the money would still be coming from corporate sponsors. Just look at Nigel pack’s deal, 800k for two years from a corporation.
The collective just allows people to chip in to an additional pot. If you don’t want to, that’s your choice.
Probably.
And college players shutting their seasons down early when a higher bidder basically drafts them.
I'd say this is a slippery slope but it's full avalanche style.
I probably will but it won't be a large amount. More of a contribution just to try to keep things going.
However....I'm a 20+ year season and cyclone club member. Had I put that money away in my kids 529 on top of what I already give, I could have one hell of a nest egg.
Now I'm thinking of putting money into a fund to help pay for athletes who already get their school 100% paid for and will get many more college amenities than my kids ever will......??
I don't know, this is stretching my will to stay involved in college athletics.
I've always thought student athletes should get some type of stipend because they do put in a TON of effort but the way the NIL is working out is turning out to be a bad option, IMHO.
However....I'm a 20+ year season and cyclone club member. Had I put that money away in my kids 529 on top of what I already give, I could have one hell of a nest egg.
Now I'm thinking of putting money into a fund to help pay for athletes who already get their school 100% paid for and will get many more college amenities than my kids ever will......??
I don't know, this is stretching my will to stay involved in college athletics.
I've always thought student athletes should get some type of stipend because they do put in a TON of effort but the way the NIL is working out is turning out to be a bad option, IMHO.
To me it's not so worrisome about getting absolute studs out of high school. We rarely got them anyway. The problem is going to be KEEPING underrated guys that prove to be really good players.
Mike Rose... I believe we beat out Ohio for him. Would he have been here for 4 years in the NIL era? Doubt it.
Being paid as a spokesman for a corporate sponsor is NIL, it is using your Name, Image and Likeness.
Being paid by a collective, such as OU giving every football player $50K each, is not NIL. There is no spokesmanship or sponsorship from a Not-for-profit handing out money to everyone.
I'm all for players profiting of their NIL if they are truly a spokesman, but just raising money and going Oprah, you get $, you get $, you get $, without actually doing anything other than coming to the school or being on the team is what I don't agree with.
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I get it what you're saying, and I don't disagree, but how do you define what is and isn't legitimate, though? What kind of requirements would you have to put on a NIL deal to make it legitimate? And if you did that, couldn't the collectives just alter their deals to fall in line with the rules and keep on going the way they are?
For example, if you put a stipulation that the NIL deal must include some sort of use of the athlete's name, image, or likeness for promotional purposes, then the collective just holds some kind of event and has the athlete appear in the promotional material. Boom. Requirement satisfied.
There's no way to police this without spending a ton of money and man hours on it, and there's little additional infrastructure for that at the NCAA level. And even if there were, what makes you think they'd be able to police it any better than their current rule enforcement efforts, which are pathetic at best.
I agree with you that their is no easy way. But if they do find a way to police it they need to put in penalties with some actual teeth.
But how can a athlete be a spokesman for a collective that's mission is to raise money to pay athletes? It's like a circular reference. The collective's sole purpose is to raise money and pay athletes, it's different than a business or other not for profit hiring them to be a spokesman.
