Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

AuH2O

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If the Pac12 believes that UO and UW are staying, they will VERY likely stick together, just like the Big12 did. They will look at it as the least bad option. And I don't think they will have any luck trying to poach any Big12 teams. I know they wanted Houston, but at this point is Pac12 better for Houston than Big12? I don't think so.

FWIW I agree with the Fox guy who said Big12+Pac12 = 22 conference makes sense. It's better visibility for the west coast schools wrt TV slots and market, for sure. I thought that BEFORE USC/UCLA dipped out. Now, its probably even more important. But for the Big12, other than stability via sheer size, I am not sure how much it helps - maybe it's a little more tv revenue per school, idk.
I think the time slot thing is a complete cop out. All we heard about the last couple years is "PAC after dark." USC and Oregon didn't play hardly any late night games, and played on good networks. And when comparing games on networks those two didn't perform much differently in those slots as "no value" Iowa State.

Where it will make a difference in a merger is there is a good chance at least some of the games for the PAC schools that at least one of the two teams playing in the game will have fans that actually give a **** and watch. Tired of hearing the PAC apologists say a merger makes sense because of time zones. No, it makes sense because no one watches your league.

And the big 12's choice is not about boosting revenue or watering it down. Everybody left in the PAC waters down per team revenue except Oregon for sure, Utah and UW probably don't change it much, and the rest probably hurt it. However, the Big 12 can't sit back and look at per team revenues and make decisions simply based on that. It's more about who can you add that gives you enough numbers and geography locked down to help keep access to a playoff. I don't care what anybody says, the networks or P2 aren't going to lock out the states of Washington, Arizona, Colorado, Kansas and Northern CA from the playoff. Not for any altruistic reasons, but I don't think it makes financial sense to do so, especially when you consider what they'd have to pay and risk to try to blow up and destabilize the Big 12 (and ACC).

The way ESPN makes the most money is keeping as many teams a part of the playoff chase while the SEC dominates the berths. Let's say the PAC and ACC dissolve and you end up with 3 main leagues - Big 10, SEC, and Big 12, each with 18-20 teams. Give all three champs an autobid. Then divvy up the remaining at large bids among the SEC and Big 10. Losing that one slot to the Big 12 is small potatoes, and you keep all the current Power conference fan bases engaged in your product.
 
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All I remember while living in the Bay Area for 15 years and attending a few games were the tarps covering the end zones to hide the empty seats, the very fragmented tailgating, the horrific parking, and the horrible games.

Weird. When was this? I’ve been to a number of games over the last 20+ years, some poorly attended, and never saw tarps.

As for your complaints of tailgating, yeah…never tried it. Parking is an intractable problem, but not one I’ve had to contend with…
 
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I get what you're saying but this is only really true if they start axing the schools like Northwestern, Vanderbuilt, etc.
NW & Vandy are in conferences that can grow their per school revenue by adding the most lucrative schools. So with this round of realignment there is no need to drop schools.

But, they could cull Northwestern and Vandy when all the Notre Dames have been acquired.

The Big12/Pac12 merger can't grow per school revenue by adding a USC or Oklahoma, but by getting rid of schools at the bottom of media rights valuation. So not sure a 22 team merged Big12/Pac12 will maximize per school TV revenue.
 

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Maybe this was already posted and I missed it, but that same writer put out this piece yesterday, which I found to be pretty fcking rich.

"There’s too much good for all to share now — not equally, but certainly without historic programs being left out — to race into the great unknown of 2 super conferences and everyone else.

There’s too much that’s right about college football for Sankey and Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren (and their respective university presidents) to stare at each other like Reagan and Gorbachev while everyone else shivers on the sidelines."

LOL. Only good for them. They are already ruining college athletics.
I read it as ESPN wants status quo since ND isn't jumping to the B1G.
Agree.
It's almost like this whole saga of ND is the Big 10 toying with SEC and Fox toying with ESPN, like the SEC and ESPN did last year. The Big 10 got what they wanted SC and UCLA and they figured while they were at it, let's rattle the cages and see if what ESPN and SEC does when they toss out the possibility of ND, knowing it was unlikely. In the end, the Big 10 and SEC enjoyed getting all the cold calls, which cements their status in the media. That is what is sick. Playing their games and messing with other programs and the future of college athletics.
We will be happy to get in a P3 conference. For now. The whole thing is a mistake and all about power and money. Those on the outside, and even those in an eventual solid P3, will never forget.
 

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Nothing beats the nice downtown view of a big ol landfill in Cedar Rapids. Hmmmmmmm garbage. Cedar Rapids will someday smell like that diaper genie in the garage in August that you haven't emptied in a week.
It's capped. There is no smell. I believe Ingredion has contracted for the methane generated so it is piped to them.
 

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The SEC wanted Texas when they already had A&M.

The real truth is that ESPN wanted the brand name content that is Texas and Oklahoma, and they got them via the SEC.

If ESPN wants to lock up the content that is Clemson and FSU and/or Miami, they will try to get them via the SEC as well. ESPN is consolidating all their best product into the SEC, as best they can.

Yeah, I just don't think it's a guarantee ESPN wants Clemson and FSU. They're certainly much different than Texas in terms of market size. And they don't bring as many blockbuster rivalry games. Of course, maybe it all happens in the next few days and I look like an idiot.
 
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Lots of interesting info in that long post of screenshots, but you know what jumped out to me?

”Lynchpin.” Not how you spell it. It’s “linchpin.” You can’t even blame autocorrect, since you’re spelling a word that doesn’t exist, and if your own device accepts/changes it to “lynchpin” it’s because you intentionally spelled it that way a bunch.

It’s just that “lynch” has such a strong negative connotation that it jumps right off the screen. That’s all. My past years of copyediting/proofreading still staying with me …
 

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Lots of interesting info in that long post of screenshots, but you know what jumped out to me?

”Lynchpin.” Not how you spell it. It’s “linchpin.” You can’t even blame autocorrect, since you’re spelling a word that doesn’t exist, and if your own device accepts/changes it to “lynchpin” it’s because you intentionally spelled it that way a bunch.

It’s just that “lynch” has such a strong negative connotation that it jumps right off the screen. That’s all. My past years of copyediting/proofreading still staying with me …
Maybe he orders a lot from here:

 
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