Officiating at the end of the Iowa game

Turn2

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National Anthem?

Can someone clarify why ISU stayed in the tunnel during Anthem? These endless azzhat Hawkeye fans on facebook and twitter outraged that ISU wasn't on the field

Also-- Iowa's fullback 'broke the plane' before fumbling at goalline.
>> according to countless enraged Iowa fans.

Any reason to believe them?

Iowa fans are the freaking worst winners, and worst LOSERS around--bar none





https://www.weareiowa.com/video/spo...line/524-dd909e78-aade-4130-92f3-5c5f8dedcce3 via @weareiowa5news
They would have had to run right through the performing Iowa band.
 

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If it was called unnecessary roughness it doesn't matter where on the field he was hit. A late hit is out of bounce or after the play is called dead.
I think that is where everyone is getting hung up. Good call.

Also when X caught the TD the tv angle was from the opposite end zone so it looked like he pushed him. I don't think they showed that angle on tv. Most of of the stadium would have seen it from behind the play. I thought it looked like a push on tv.
it looked like the defender was holding on to x's wrist to me
 
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Ignoring the atrocious offsides and unsportsmanlike conduct penalties on Iowa’s last drive, I can’t believe they picked up that flag on DeJean on ISU 4th down.

Initially I thought that was the right call but after rewatching it, the defender never turned around. Should have been an automatic penalty.
 

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Ignoring the atrocious offsides and unsportsmanlike conduct penalties on Iowa’s last drive, I can’t believe they picked up that flag on DeJean on ISU 4th down.

Initially I thought that was the right call but after rewatching it, the defender never turned around. Should have been an automatic penalty.
That is NFL, college defender does not need to turn their head. I need to rewatch the play sober, but I was drunk pissed when they picked up the flag.
 

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My guess is that the official who threw that flag thought ISU had just won the game too and thought it’d be a meaningless penalty. Probably wouldn’t have thrown it if he knew there was a drive extending flag already thrown. But once the laundry is on the field, you can’t just pick it back up.
Sure you can. How many PI flags got picked up in Manhattan involving Lazard? 3?
 
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Sure you can. How many PI flags got picked up in Manhattan involving Lazard? 3?

Here’s the deal on the sideline flag at the end. It’s a five-yard penalty even if it’s a second call for sideline warning. They called it a 15 yard penalty so it wasn’t a sideline warning that required a first offense warning.

The ref called it a sideline interference and that more than likely means it was the unsportsmanlike foul previously pointed out.

And my guess is someone bumped a side judge or impeded them while the fumble play was actively happening, like when the hit is made, the ball comes out, etc. we have all seen guys jump into the white sideline area when those plays happen and before the play is over. If we had a coach (because we have had an asst. coach do it before) or player do that, it’s going to get called if they contact a ref. It sucks but again, if we are going to preach win in the margins, you’ve got to avoid that crap.
 

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I need to see more video of this, but the official needs to use some discretion here. Huge call in a tight rivalry game.
Right -- is there video of the sideline? I was thinking that if it's excessive, then it might warrant skipping the warning. Like if it was basically going to be unsportsmanlike excessive celebration anyway.

Seems like whenever I see video of sideline warnings, its always extremely minor -- or it interferes slightly with an official. Warrants a warning, but not a flag.
 

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The ref called it a sideline interference and that more than likely means it was the unsportsmanlike foul previously pointed out.

And my guess is someone bumped a side judge or impeded them while the fumble play was actively happening, like when the hit is made, the ball comes out, etc. we have all seen guys jump into the white sideline area when those plays happen and before the play is over. If we had a coach (because we have had an asst. coach do it before) or player do that, it’s going to get called if they contact a ref. It sucks but again, if we are going to preach win in the margins, you’ve got to avoid that crap.

The call was: "After the play was over, unsportsmanlike conduct against the Iowa State bench, multiple players came on to the field."

Which is effectively a celebration penalty.
 

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The call was: "After the play was over, unsportsmanlike conduct against the Iowa State bench, multiple players came on to the field."

Which is effectively a celebration penalty.

It was a ******** flag. Especially considering the side judge in front of the Iowa State bench was pointing Iowa State football
 
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theshadow

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It was a ******** flag. Especially considering the side judge in front of the Iowa State bench was pointing Iowa State football

I'm not debating the merits of the penalty. Just clarifying what the call was, since so many people have called it sideline interference (which it wasn't).
 

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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe we go out onto the field for the national anthem. We come out after.

And the only way you think the FB broke the plane by watching the replay is essentially if you were an Iowa fan. There wasn't a single shred of evidence that showed him breaking the plane with control of the football. Did he maybe break the plane before but there just wasn't a good angle via camera? Absolutely, but that's how that goes.

There were 50/50 and questionable calls all day long. We did not get all of them. Funny enough, they actually got two calls gifted to them to keep them in the game and go to OT. Oh well, let them process the loss.
agreed, I watched it multiple times and couldn't tell for sure, I think if the refs had ruled it broke the plane and was a TD they probably would have stuck with that call. It was just that close. We should have beat them fairly easily but I'm happy with the result.
 

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I think dekkers has always been closer to a Lanning runner than a Purdy runner. Purdy will try to make you miss, Hunter wants to punish you. Every week he survives, the better i feel about Becht becoming a serviceable fill in incase HD gets dinged.
He needs to incorporate the Purdy pump-fake, I was always amazed at how effective that was at immobilizing a defender and allowing Purdy to get past them.
 

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The call was: "After the play was over, unsportsmanlike conduct against the Iowa State bench, multiple players came on to the field."

Which is effectively a celebration penalty.

The coming on the field penalty is treated as a dead ball “unsportsmanlike conduct” penalty if the players enter the field and interfere with the ref while the play is still ongoing. The way the ref phrased it, it doesn’t appear they bumped him but you don’t have to bump him to interfere, especially on a fumble play like that and the ref either has to dodge you to get to the pile or you block his view of some aspect of the play.

In all likelihood, if a specialist comes on the field way at the end of the bench, it’s not called. If you have several players enter the field at or near the line of scrimmage before the play is over or blown dead, you are likely to get rung up with it.
 

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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe we go out onto the field for the national anthem. We come out after.

And the only way you think the FB broke the plane by watching the replay is essentially if you were an Iowa fan. There wasn't a single shred of evidence that showed him breaking the plane with control of the football. Did he maybe break the plane before but there just wasn't a good angle via camera? Absolutely, but that's how that goes.

There were 50/50 and questionable calls all day long. We did not get all of them. Funny enough, they actually got two calls gifted to them to keep them in the game and go to OT. Oh well, let them process the loss.

FWIW I couldn't tell on that replay or on our sideline catch either way. Call on the field should've stood either way and that's what call on field was.

I could tell on our "neutral zone" infraction replay that if we were in the neutral zone they missed about 30-50 other flags for that the entire rest of the game. That's beyond bizarre to flag that on the last play when it's that razor close and apparently nobody else was in neutral zone the entire game even though it seems somebody lines up like that every play. Also that photo someone posted of McDonald getting dragged by his facemask without a penalty...so yeah, sour grapes.
 
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FWIW I couldn't tell on that replay or on our sideline catch either way. Call on the field should've stood either way and that's what call on field was.

I could tell on our "neutral zone" infraction replay that if we were in the neutral zone they missed about 30-50 other flags for that the entire rest of the game. That's beyond bizarre to flag that on the last play when it's that razor close and apparently nobody else was in neutral zone the entire game even though it seems somebody lines up like that every play. Also that photo someone posted of McDonald getting dragged by his facemask without a penalty...so yeah, sour grapes.
That play you mention at the end there was a flag. It was the 4th down one, we declined it.
 

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