Rotations with Jaz Back
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I don't hate Bob, but we were not better with him last night.
Have been thinking the same. Could be my imagination but feel like our shooting from outside has improved since he’s been out. And just the offense flowing better in general. It’s ultimately a good problem to have for TJ, but going to be interesting to see how he plays this when Jaz comes back.
Just one game. People have skewed memory of him because of that one game . He was a good rebounder his senior year but he was a poor offensive player for all 4 years at ISU.
No they don't (or at least I don't). It was merely an example. Perhaps the best example of what the player became.
I remember his development over 4 years and I would hands-down take him over Big Rob Energy as Seniors. No questions asked--it is a no brainer. He wasn't the most skilled player but he wasn't poor and he wasn't as much of a bumbler as Big Rob Energy can be when he goes into bumblefuck mode.
Again, I love Big Rob Energy, but I think comparisons to a starter from 2004 are inapposite. You can keep your opinion and I will salute you as a fellow fan of Big Rob Energy. But I will not agree with you on the above matter.
LOL, Jared Homan absolutely was not a poor offensive player for 4 years. He was a very solid offensive player for 2 years and then a very good offensive player is senior year, averaging close to 14ppg and 9rpg. His senior year alone, he had 24 games scoring double figures, including 10 games of 15+.
Very odd post. I don't think anyone has any sort of skewed memory of Homan. He was a really solid college player, really hard-nosed, tough, etc. He is objectively a much, much, better player in every way than Rob Jones.
Look at his FG percentage. He shot 43%. He was not a guard or stretch 4 or 5, he was a center. Overll, Homan was a better player but he missed as many or if not more bunnies than Jones.
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His FG% is absolutely fine. Objectively a very good college basketball player. Several levels above a player like Rob Jones in every category.
To add, he was asked to take on a more extensive role in the offense is junior and senior years. And did solidly with it, extending his range and adding a solid set jump shot and free throw % to the mix.
Jones played less than 10 minutes last night because he was a bad match-up against Texas. And Jaz wasn't there to impact his minutes. Rob Jones is never going to be a pretty player on offense. But the Osunniyi/Jones combo still play 34 minutes.
The 4 guards played almost 140 minutes.
Match ups are going to dictate minutes. Last night Texas played it's 2 posts (Mitchel & Disu) a combined 29 minutes. So TJ went small. There will be teams with size that TJ will need to play the group of Osunniyi, Jones, Kunc, T King, Watson & Ward closer to 80 minutes.
Lineup flexibility is a nice problem to have for TJ.
The 4 guards played almost 140 minutes.
Match ups are going to dictate minutes. Last night Texas played it's 2 posts (Mitchel & Disu) a combined 29 minutes. So TJ went small. There will be teams with size that TJ will need to play the group of Osunniyi, Jones, Kunc, T King, Watson & Ward closer to 80 minutes.
Lineup flexibility is a nice problem to have for TJ.
Big Rob was showing much improved touch around the basket the first few months, he's forcing a bit under the intensity of games like KU and UT, but he'll be just fine. He's earned TJ's trust for a reason, and TJ showed last night he's not stubborn when a player just isn't having their night.
With that said, I do think the trend will continue to keep Osun getting 25 mins/game, and let Ward and Big Rob split the rest evenly (barring any foul troubles).
We don't need or want Jaz jumping into the 5 spot, so he's not taking Jones's minutes upon his return. I think Jaz and Tre will just split the 4 spot more evenly, and let Watson slip back into the 3 as needed.
With that said, I do think the trend will continue to keep Osun getting 25 mins/game, and let Ward and Big Rob split the rest evenly (barring any foul troubles).
We don't need or want Jaz jumping into the 5 spot, so he's not taking Jones's minutes upon his return. I think Jaz and Tre will just split the 4 spot more evenly, and let Watson slip back into the 3 as needed.
Really it's King taking his minutes - he just got a reprieve with Jaz's injury
Is there a BigXII team that has that kind of size? I don't think there is
if you think of past ISU teams - having 6 quality "posts" (Shoon, Jones, Ward, King, Jaz and Watson) to play 60-80 minutes is a huge huge luxury! If needed, that's 30 fouls to play with.
I would also add that the second half last night was one of the first times all season I've seen us switching everything. Shoon and Jones got switched on Carr several times and did a very good job keeping him in check. We switched up our PnR defense several times during the game (KG is a wizard)
No, he was not . He was a strong inside player without any post moves. He was the best big man we had and played solid minutes,but this doesn’t mean he was several levels above Jones. Jones could have started on 2004-2005 team with Blalock and Stinson. Point I am trying to make is some people are too harsh on Jones. Everyone misses bunnies including beloved Homan.
I think we have a bunch of versatility in our lineup and a lot of it will depend on matchup. I think Jones, Jaz, Watson, Ward and King’s minutes will vary each night depending how we want to play.
I think Holman had a pro career that was more than one or two years. Not happening with Jones.
Why is it so hard for some people to accept the fact that Jone is a decent offensive player? I never said he was a better than Homan. All I said was some people are too harsh on Jones whenever he misses a shot even though a player like Homan missed as many if not more easy shots than Jones. He is a decent player who is playing an important role for a top 15 team.
