Made this post elsewhere but I hope TJ learned 2 things from this year

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I don't think TJ or anyone expected the injuries or maybe even an ineligible for part of the season Tre.
Our expected PG missed the whole year, our best perimeter shooter missed games and still looks hobbled, our most versatile player lost maybe a month?

I know a lot of teams get injured but it seems to have really snagged us this year.

I love how someone dumbed this. Like it didn't happen.

Many players were wincing and limping etc. today.
 

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My biggest complaint with this years team is that we haven't seem to even mess with a "small ball" line up with either King or Jaz at the 5. I know the answer probably is we don't have a Brockington who can guard up to a 4 or have Jaz and King available together, but the hesitancy to even throw that out there has caused us to rely way to much on Jones and the same offensive sets.
 
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I love how someone dumbed this. Like it didn't happen.

Many players were wincing and limping etc. today.
I know most times if I hit a "laugh" button on one of his takes to expect a "dumb" from him. It happens pretty regularly. I think it's pretty funny.
Also, he has no problem calling out people's opinions from years ago but he had some brutal cringe takes on TJ. Ironic.
 
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I know most times if I hit a "laugh" button on one of his takes to expect a "dumb" from him. It happens pretty regularly. I think it's pretty funny.
Also, he has no problem calling out people's opinions from years ago but he had some brutal cringe takes on TJ. Ironic.

The 'needed more of a search' folks are full throttle.
 

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The 'needed more of a search' folks are full throttle.
I've had bad takes before, I'm sure we all have had them. But he has no problem bringing up other people's and also hides behind this being atleast his second username.
 

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My biggest complaint with this years team is that we haven't seem to even mess with a "small ball" line up with either King or Jaz at the 5. I know the answer probably is we don't have a Brockington who can guard up to a 4 or have Jaz and King available together, but the hesitancy to even throw that out there has caused us to rely way to much on Jones and the same offensive sets.
I don't feel that is the issue. We have played small ball a lot. In fact I would argue teams are taking advantage of our 4 guard lineup.

Today, I thought that was a turning point at the 6/7minute mark of 2nd half. OU knew we'd switch and got one of our 4 guards on Groves or Godwin in paint and got easy basket. TJ's then brought Kunc in for Jones and OU again got a post guarded by an ISU guard. Pretty tough for Lipsey, Grill, Gabe or Holmes to guard either Groves or Godwin down low.

Our defense has been Jeckyl & Hyde the last month. Easy to say we don't have the horses, but I feel opposing coaches have us figured out. It just might take their players some time to adjust.
 

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I honestly think we're being a little hard on the AJ Green waiting game. Hell, Duke wanted him. I think with that caliber of player it's not always easy to know what to do.
We all know AJ is the exact player this team needs this year. I'm not going to get down on him or the staff for that decision.
 

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1. Never bank schollies

2. Never bank on anyone being here who hasn't committed

Those 2 things are why the season turned out how they are. We're massively overachieving but could be actually good if we had better breaks in the offseason. Hopefully TJ and the staff learn from this
I have NO sympathy regarding AJ Green and people who do aren't serious. They so badly needed better guards even with Brockington and Hunter, they lost both and didn't bring in a single efficient guard. The loss of Williams hurts and I'll be the first to admit it.

But the AJ Green thing was avoidable if they had done what most coaches would have done, filled the spot and figured it out later. If AJ decides he wants to come around draft time, you wish Jones or Ward the best and try to help them find a spot. It's what serious programs would do. You don't need a third string center in college basketball which is decidedly a guard's game.
 

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Ok who the let Macloney's ass back in here?
You have 0 idea if any of those guys would have come. TJ has the best idea of who would fit with the team.

Maybe TJ thought Green was the best piece to win a conference title. If you want Iowa State to not try and get the best players they can and instead settle for someone else, then I don't know what to tell you.
We're on the same page for what we want but aren't at the same time.

Sure, we don't know if they would have come. We don't know because we didnt try. Get the best players you can in the door and figure it out afterwards. There's ways we could have made it work. Instead we got 0 good shooters and gave ourselves 1 less player. If you are going to do that then the guys you have better be able to shoot, which they obviusly can't, and you better not have any injury(3, maybe 4 of them now) or busts(Ward apparently since we play the worst rotation piece in the Big 12 17 MPG over him).

Instead we're eating every single negative effect of the above and once everyone figured us out we were exposed as a bunch of old over achievers.
 

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I have NO sympathy regarding AJ Green and people who do aren't serious. They so badly needed better guards even with Brockington and Hunter, they lost both and didn't bring in a single efficient guard. The loss of Williams hurts and I'll be the first to admit it.

But the AJ Green thing was avoidable if they had done what most coaches would have done, filled the spot and figured it out later. If AJ decides he wants to come around draft time, you wish Jones or Ward the best and try to help them find a spot. It's what serious programs would do. You don't need a third string center in college basketball which is decidedly a guard's game.
So, you're going to cut a kid that you've already guaranteed a scholarship, has moved across the country and enrolled in summer classes?

This isn't a video game. These are real people.
 

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So, you're going to cut a kid that you've already guaranteed a scholarship, has moved across the country and enrolled in summer classes?

This isn't a video game. These are real people.
That part is awful. You're right, and I'd soften my stance as I think that that's too far. I'd say I'd rather be a center short than a guard short and wouldn't offer a scholly to a center if I was okay just running it back with a center on the roster and just bring in 1 instead of 2.

When I think about it, it would be a really bad move just as a person to do what I'd suggested. Just would hope guard play is prioritized more.
 
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That part is awful. You're right, and I'd soften my stance as I think that that's too far. I'd say I'd rather be a center short than a guard short and wouldn't offer a scholly to a center if I was okay just running it back with a center on the roster and just bring in 1 instead of 2.

When I think about it, it would be a really bad move just as a person to do what I'd suggested. Just would hope guard play is prioritized more.
It's a fine line and it may be a situation where there's no correct answer.
Fred bounced out Richard Armadi IIRC to free up the scholly.
 
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