Adding Washington and Oregon is fine but if we added Cal and Stanford that would be very stupid. Also love reports like this which do not cite a single individual or institution. The other post with an interview from the Baylor AD is what good reporting looks like.
Big 12 Conference Realignment
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Team # of average Viewers Conference # of rated games
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- Alabama 6.02 SEC 11/13 = 84.6%
- Florida State 5.73 ACC 12/13 = 92.3%
- Notre Dame 4.20 IND 12/12 = 100%
- Auburn 3.89 SEC 9/12 = 75%
- Ohio State 3.81 B10 10/13 = 76.9%
- Mississippi 3.35 SEC 10/12 = 83.3%
- Mississippi State 3.04 SEC 8/12 = 66.7%
- Michigan State 2.71 B10 8/12 = 66.7%
- Georgia 2.62 SEC 7/12 = 58.3%
- LSU 2.62 SEC 8/12 = 66.7%
- Texas A&M 2.56 SEC 8/12 = 66.7%
- Michigan 2.52 B10 8/12 = 66.7%
- Oregon 2.31 P12 10/13 = 76.9%
- Missouri 2.28 SEC 8/13 = 61.5%
- Oklahoma 2.17 B12 11/12 = 91.7%
- Southern California 2.11 P12 10/12 = 83.3%
- Wisconsin 2.08 B10 10/13 = 76.9%
- UCLA 2.07 P12 10/12 = 83.3%
- Nebraska 2.01 B10 8/12 = 66.7%
- Baylor 1.97 B12 11/12 = 91.7%
- Arkansas 1.94 SEC 8/12 = 66.7%
- Florida 1.93 SEC 5/11 = 45.5%
- TCU 1.80 B12 10/12 = 83.3%
- West Virginia 1.73 B12 9/12 = 75%
- K-State and Texas (tie) 1.72 B12 10/12 = 83.3%
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If we are using these types of metaphors, maybe the PAC would be more of a crack hoar.More like the unhinged blue-haired activist who can't even pay her bills, but still doubles down on her holier-than-thou attitude because she's certain that she's just better than you.
For all the strengths 'Big XII Country' has over the PAC, I think it's safe to say we have the market cornered on meth addicts w/ a couple of kids.
The Rose Bowl cares more about the B1G tie-in than the Pac tie-in due to fans traveling and TVs. Always have and always will. With USC and UCLA going to the B1G, I could easily see a B1G vs. SEC tie-in, or a B1G vs. at large in the Rose Bowl. Pac is going to lose their Rose Bowl tie-in once the L.A. teams leave and the contract runs out.
This is massively flawed. I know this is from the 2021 season but there is no world where Michigan is ranked 12th and Sparty is 8th when it comes to ratings. Bunch of other schools should immediately raise eyebrows as well.Team # of average Viewers Conference # of rated games
- Alabama 6.02 SEC 11/13 = 84.6%
- Florida State 5.73 ACC 12/13 = 92.3%
- Notre Dame 4.20 IND 12/12 = 100%
- Auburn 3.89 SEC 9/12 = 75%
- Ohio State 3.81 B10 10/13 = 76.9%
- Mississippi 3.35 SEC 10/12 = 83.3%
- Mississippi State 3.04 SEC 8/12 = 66.7%
- Michigan State 2.71 B10 8/12 = 66.7%
- Georgia 2.62 SEC 7/12 = 58.3%
- LSU 2.62 SEC 8/12 = 66.7%
- Texas A&M 2.56 SEC 8/12 = 66.7%
- Michigan 2.52 B10 8/12 = 66.7%
- Oregon 2.31 P12 10/13 = 76.9%
- Missouri 2.28 SEC 8/13 = 61.5%
- Oklahoma 2.17 B12 11/12 = 91.7%
- Southern California 2.11 P12 10/12 = 83.3%
- Wisconsin 2.08 B10 10/13 = 76.9%
- UCLA 2.07 P12 10/12 = 83.3%
- Nebraska 2.01 B10 8/12 = 66.7%
- Baylor 1.97 B12 11/12 = 91.7%
- Arkansas 1.94 SEC 8/12 = 66.7%
- Florida 1.93 SEC 5/11 = 45.5%
- TCU 1.80 B12 10/12 = 83.3%
- West Virginia 1.73 B12 9/12 = 75%
- K-State and Texas (tie) 1.72 B12 10/12 = 83.3%
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Perhaps not. I guess, ultimately, it's hard to know for sure. Setting aside my biased speculation, I'll redirect to what we do know.
The legacy Big 12 schools on a relatively equal footing with KSU and Tech, minus OuT, and plus four G5 schools have a very real network 31.6 mil base media deal in hand (leaving out the annual adjustment figures which I won't speculate on, but they will raise that figure higher, and i will leave it at that to limit speculation).
Meanwhile, the mid to lower tier schools of the ACC, buoyed by the presence of FSU and Clemson, negotiated 17 mil avg base media rights per school in 2016 spread out over 20 years. Approximately 6 mil per school on average per year from a partnership with Comcast brings that figures to 22-25 mil adjusting over the length of the deal ending on the higher end of that total figure in 2036. We also know that the ACC, with annual adjustments, paid out $36.1 per school for 2021-2022.
This is not even touching on how negotiations are going for the PAC with Oregon and Washington. Unless the networks just feel like giving money to the Big 12 without Texas and Oklahoma for reasons not correlated to product quality than the ACC and PAC with their big names baked in, I'll take my chances that the big 12 has some level of perceived watchability over the Cal and Stanfords of the coastal mid tier schools.
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LOL, this is as bad as Altimore with outdated data. But look you found something that said KState was at the top of the B12....LOL predictable. Maybe you can find something that is not almost a decade old.Team # of average Viewers Conference # of rated games
- Alabama 6.02 SEC 11/13 = 84.6%
- Florida State 5.73 ACC 12/13 = 92.3%
- Notre Dame 4.20 IND 12/12 = 100%
- Auburn 3.89 SEC 9/12 = 75%
- Ohio State 3.81 B10 10/13 = 76.9%
- Mississippi 3.35 SEC 10/12 = 83.3%
- Mississippi State 3.04 SEC 8/12 = 66.7%
- Michigan State 2.71 B10 8/12 = 66.7%
- Georgia 2.62 SEC 7/12 = 58.3%
- LSU 2.62 SEC 8/12 = 66.7%
- Texas A&M 2.56 SEC 8/12 = 66.7%
- Michigan 2.52 B10 8/12 = 66.7%
- Oregon 2.31 P12 10/13 = 76.9%
- Missouri 2.28 SEC 8/13 = 61.5%
- Oklahoma 2.17 B12 11/12 = 91.7%
- Southern California 2.11 P12 10/12 = 83.3%
- Wisconsin 2.08 B10 10/13 = 76.9%
- UCLA 2.07 P12 10/12 = 83.3%
- Nebraska 2.01 B10 8/12 = 66.7%
- Baylor 1.97 B12 11/12 = 91.7%
- Arkansas 1.94 SEC 8/12 = 66.7%
- Florida 1.93 SEC 5/11 = 45.5%
- TCU 1.80 B12 10/12 = 83.3%
- West Virginia 1.73 B12 9/12 = 75%
- K-State and Texas (tie) 1.72 B12 10/12 = 83.3%
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Straight from the source:
"Data for the Sports Economist Blog article from February 2015"
Its from 2015, the article is from April 2022, but the data used if you look is from 2015.
It also assumes "NO viewers" from "nonrated games" which completely throws the numbers of as well which several of these do.
That’s my bad but that explains some things. I would also say it’s stupid to pull data from 8 years ago as cfb changes so quickly. Totally agree with what you said.
Just noticed something today. For those of you that think distance is an issue. Womens BB taking charter plane to KU....our closest B12 foe.
As I stated before, flying from Washington to Florida is all of 5 hours, which is the extreme. Flying from Washington to Arizona is 2.5 hours.
LA to Ia City 3.5 hrs
LA to Denver 2 hrs
LA to Maryland 4.5 hrs
LA to Wazzu 2.25 hrs
Notice here, that isnt a bus. So we are chartering a plane to KU, for WBB, why would it be an issue for USC, or Washington, etc. to charter one that takes at most another 2 hours, especially when you are talking moving for millions more per year.
As I stated before, flying from Washington to Florida is all of 5 hours, which is the extreme. Flying from Washington to Arizona is 2.5 hours.
LA to Ia City 3.5 hrs
LA to Denver 2 hrs
LA to Maryland 4.5 hrs
LA to Wazzu 2.25 hrs
Notice here, that isnt a bus. So we are chartering a plane to KU, for WBB, why would it be an issue for USC, or Washington, etc. to charter one that takes at most another 2 hours, especially when you are talking moving for millions more per year.
You going to fly two semi loads of football equipment each week too?
It's not just moving teams to new game locations we are talking about here.
The GOR.
Little stuff like that.
PAC school can make $6 million less off the top vs joining the Big 12.
But at least the games won't be watched on streaming.
The PAC 12 - Less money. Worse exposure. No future.
I'm not sure what is in the Big 12 deal, these guys said that if we get a P5 its a full share, a G5 and no its not. So you SDSU people, it ain't happening. I wonder if we could possible get a little bump if we got the right combo. Might as well grab AZ and one other and at minimum we get full shares for them and it handcuffs the PAC quite a bit.
