Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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I believe Colorado is going to announce their return to the Big12 soon.

Swaim is saying it out loud. Fluguar is doing everything but saying the school(s) are going. Colorado and (maybe) Arizona leaving for the Big12 gives the B1G all they need to poach Oregon and Washington. Arizona State will likely follow to the Big12.
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The state of Oklahoma's BOR made it so that the school presidents can make their own conference affliation decisions. I don't think Arizona's BOR has given their school presidents that ability so their BOR would likely be involved in either school moving.
BORs are not going to stand in the way of anyone moving in this age, they are not going to prevent a school from moving to a better situation and money.

What they might do is encourage the other school/schools go along, but they are not going to stop them.

They will make a bunch of noise like they are going to do something, just like the Cali BoR did, but in the end they will not stop it.
 

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BORs are not going to stand in the way of anyone moving in this age, they are not going to prevent a school from moving to a better situation and money.

What they might do is encourage the other school/schools go along, but they are not going to stop them.

They will make a bunch of noise like they are going to do something, just like the Cali BoR did, but in the end they will not stop it.

The people who wanted to "stop" the move got what they ultimately wanted, UCLA will now have to pay a yearly amount to support CAL athletics moving forward.


The California BOR was never going to stop that move. It would be self-defeating as USC wouldn't and couldn't be compelled to stop their move. The Big 10 would have easily offered Oregon or Washington in place of UCLA. Then both of the top California state schools would be stuck in a conference that has lost its top brands.
 
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They didn't stop them, but they did decide to tax them moving forward for their move. :D
I didnt read where they were taxing them so to speak, Just requiring them to use the money in certain ways for some things.

Things they already pay for, just this makes sure a certain amount goes to resources for students/athletes at UCLA. Education resources, meals etc. They expected to spend about $10M, but the board made them spend $11-12M.

"On Wednesday, the board directed UCLA to provide additional yearly resources for student-athlete support as condition for its move to the Big Ten.

"We actually added more to it, so all together we have about, between 11 and 12 million of enhancements," Leib said. The official number is a range between $11.03 million to $12.20 million.

Those enhancements include providing about $6.3 million to academic support, nutritional support and mental health services for all student-athletes. Roughly $4.3 million will be for food, requiring breakfast and lunch on campus for all UCLA athletes, professional dietitian services and nutritious meals while they are traveling."


 

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That's overrated. Being governed by the same Board of Regents didn't stop UCLA from saying goodbye to Cal.
Sure but I am not talking about BOR. Arizona would be the farthest west of the Big 12 schools. They would want more local teams. Plus, Arizona and ASU are in like minds with similar brands. They are not so one sided like USC/UCLA or OU/OSU.
 

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The people who wanted to "stop" the move got what they ultimately wanted, UCLA will now have to pay a yearly amount to support CAL athletics moving forward.


The California BOR was never going to stop that move. It would be self-defeating as USC wouldn't and couldn't be compelled to stop their move. The Big 10 would have easily offered Oregon or Washington in place of UCLA. Then both of the top California state schools would be stuck in a conference that is lost its top brands.
Interesting I read it as that was either total expense including UCLA expenditures or all UCLA, But your article says it all goes to Cal.

I actually figured they may do that but I never read that they did.
 

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Sure but I am not talking about BOR. Arizona would be the farthest west of the Big 12 schools. They would want more local teams. Plus, Arizona and ASU are in like minds with similar brands. They are not so one sided like USC/UCLA or OU/OSU.
Outside of ASU, the rest of the Pac is basically as far or farther for AZ to get to, then most of the Big 12, especially if they do a regional type schedule.
 

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Does the big 12 have a shot at Washington and Oregon?

Just my personal opinion but I say don't add teams that are on the record wanting to bolt for B10/SEC that have a reasonable chance at getting the invite. If ACC was already breaking up I'd say the same thing about a Clemson for example. Go ahead and add Pitt in that hypothetical, why add Clemson in that hypothetical who is going to bolt quick.

Short term boost is not worth the inevitable hit to credibility. Especially since even before the ACC getting raided the Big 12 is looked at as third strongest conference or close to it, already clearly stronger than remaining Pac.

They can hold 2-4 other leftovers together with some MWC schools for a few years waiting for their Big 10 invite. Also just my opinion but I think the B10 only waited to add them because of the potential legal problem of totally destroying the Pac. It's been proven you can slowly pick apart a league with no legal recourse, why not just keep that model and not risk legal exposure by crushing the Pac all at once.
 
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I didnt read where they were taxing them so to speak, Just requiring them to use the money in certain ways for some things.

Things they already pay for, just this makes sure a certain amount goes to resources for students/athletes at UCLA. Education resources, meals etc. They expected to spend about $10M, but the board made them spend $11-12M.

"On Wednesday, the board directed UCLA to provide additional yearly resources for student-athlete support as condition for its move to the Big Ten.

"We actually added more to it, so all together we have about, between 11 and 12 million of enhancements," Leib said. The official number is a range between $11.03 million to $12.20 million.

Those enhancements include providing about $6.3 million to academic support, nutritional support and mental health services for all student-athletes. Roughly $4.3 million will be for food, requiring breakfast and lunch on campus for all UCLA athletes, professional dietitian services and nutritious meals while they are traveling."


IMO the additional subsidies were a way for Cal BOR to save face in their much publicized attempt to bully Big10 into taking Cal.

Allowed regents to point to a couple small victories that UCLA can live with and might have done on own with BIG10 financial windfall.
 
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