Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Gonzo]

Need to get yourself a Tampico Stogies jersey.

Such a great movie. And possibly the coolest baseball team logo ever.

 

[clone52]

I have to include "The Final Season" in the discussion, if for no other reason than it's based on the events of the last season of Norway, Iowa baseball. Just watched it again the other night on Amazon.

You can easily see me in that movie. Tall guy at the back of the school board meeting. Head above the rest.

 

[isucy86]

My rankings:
1. The Natural
2. Eight Men Out
3. Bull Durham
4. Field of Dreams
5. A League of Their Own

Most underrated baseball movie: Long Gone.

So much debate on greatest among your top 5, I'll have to catch Long Gone.

A top 5 for me is Pride of the Yankees, the 1940's film about Lou Gehrig. Bonus is guest appearances by actual Yankee greats of the era.

A hidden gem for me is 1970's film Bang the Drum Slowly with Robert De Niro. The actors are about as non-athletic as could be cast. Baseballs version of Brian Song.

 

[2speedy1]

Gotta hand it to you for your passion in defending your argument.

Now tell me, if you had to accept one of these, which would it be?

1. Big 12 game in Mexico.
2. San Diego State in the Big 12.

It can be neither.

At least I bring receipts with links, a lot of people pull **** out of their ass and claim it as fact.

 

[2speedy1]

Nobody in SoCal cares about college sports. Yes, it's a big market. Yes, they might like SDSU basketball. This is a money game and the money comes from football. SDSU football stadium holds 35K, Fresno holds 40K. No thanks. There is a reason why they are G5. Leave them that way,

For all their success over the last several years, a new stadium etc. The still can barely get their stadium Half full most weeks. UNI has a better following and fanbase than SDSU, NDSt has probably double the following. And no one is clamoring to add those to the Big12.

 

[2speedy1]

Curious for the people against San Diego State if you feel similarly about Houston and Cincy? I can’t believe level of fan support is too different? Their attendance is maybe similar/slightly better I believe?

Positive is they’re closer to other big 12 schools but negative is that they don’t allow you to play games in a new time zone like SDSU.

If you compare the numbers all those are significantly better than SDSU. Houston is the worst and probably was not a great add when looking at their value and viewership. But the others viewership is much much higher than SDSU.

 

[Al_4_State]

JFC. You’d think after months of this thread coming back to life with no news and just the same recycled speculation I’d stop looking. Yet I can’t help myself so I’ll just keep doing it and get educated on baseball movies.

So much this.

Every college sports message board I follow has a massive realignment thread that’s dominated by 5-10 posters routinely posting lengthy hypotheticals and endlessly speculating about things they have absolutely no real knowledge of, while absolutely nothing is actually happening.

And I can’t help but open and read those threads every time I log in.

 

[keepngoal]

So much this.

Every college sports message board I follow has a massive realignment thread that’s dominated by 5-10 posters routinely posting lengthy hypotheticals and endlessly speculating about things they have absolutely no real knowledge of, while absolutely nothing is actually happening.

And I can’t help but open and read those threads every time I log in.

This. I scan this thread for twitter links … everything else is just whatever.

 

[2speedy1]

So much this.

Every college sports message board I follow has a massive realignment thread that’s dominated by 5-10 posters routinely posting lengthy hypotheticals and endlessly speculating about things they have absolutely no real knowledge of, while absolutely nothing is actually happening.

And I can’t help but open and read those threads every time I log in.

There has not been any real news for months. Same crap every day, full of speculation and mysterious sources that always seem to be wrong. It becomes easy to be sidetracked by things not exactly relevant while we wait for something of substance.

 

[NWICY]

The baseball movie part of this thread is the best thing in multiple pages.

 

[Al_4_State]

There has not been any real news for months. Same crap every day, full of speculation and mysterious sources that always seem to be wrong. It becomes easy to be sidetracked by things not exactly relevant while we wait for something of substance.

That’s exactly where realignment talk ends up. There’s a running thread on another board I follow that’s basically been a 10 year old conversation. They started it in 2011.

 

[alarson]

This. I scan this thread for twitter links … everything else is just whatever.

By the way, any chance we can rename this thread to be more applicable to what it is- an overall realignment megathread?

 

[sunset]

Somebody started an insider thread on this topic on the Arizona State board yesterday. It’s up to 41 pages. Tempted to join just to read it but have a feeling it’s the same old stuff.

 

[qwerty]

 

[Cybone]

I believe Colorado is going to announce their return to the Big12 soon.

Swaim is saying it out loud. Fluguar is doing everything but saying the school(s) are going. Colorado and (maybe) Arizona leaving for the Big12 gives the B1G all they need to poach Oregon and Washington. Arizona State will likely follow to the Big12.

 

[HouClone]

I believe Colorado is going to announce their return to the Big12 soon.

Swaim is saying it out loud. Fluguar is doing everything but saying the school(s) are going. Colorado and (maybe) Arizona leaving for the Big12 gives the B1G all they need to poach Oregon and Washington. Arizona State will likely follow to the Big12.

I am still in the camp that no Pac teams move. And if there is movement, Washington and Oregon have to move first (likely to the Big 10).

Jason Sheer of the Arizona board recently said Arizona State will stick it out with the Pac. That's not good as I don't see Arizona State and Arizona splitting up.

 

[ClonerJams]

I am still in the camp that no Pac teams move. And if there is movement, Washington and Oregon have to move first (likely to the Big 10).

Jason Sheer of the Arizona board recently said Arizona State will stick it out with the Pac. That's not good as I don't see Arizona State and Arizona splitting up.

Meh. Didn't mean **** when Oklahoma left OSU behind. Ultimately institutions will do what's best for them.

 

[Gorm]

Meh. Didn't mean **** when Oklahoma left OSU behind. Ultimately institutions will do what's best for them.

The state of Oklahoma's BOR made it so that the school presidents can make their own conference affliation decisions. I don't think Arizona's BOR has given their school presidents that ability so their BOR would likely be involved in either school moving.

 

[Pope]

I am still in the camp that no Pac teams move. And if there is movement, Washington and Oregon have to move first (likely to the Big 10).

Jason Sheer of the Arizona board recently said Arizona State will stick it out with the Pac. That's not good as I don't see Arizona State and Arizona splitting up.

That's overrated. Being governed by the same Board of Regents didn't stop UCLA from saying goodbye to Cal.

 

[isucy86]

Seems to me Presidents and AD's in the Pac12 have to step back and evaluate where they feel college athletics is moving over the next 5-10 years.

If a President/AD believes the future is 2 levels of media rights valuation:

1. Big10/SEC or
2. Big12/Pac12/ACC

Then I can't fault schools like Oregon, Washington, Arizona State, Utah, etc. positioning their schools to be part of the Big10/SEC. If those school's Presidents and AD's feel that means keeping the Pac12 together until 2030, that's the strategic direction they choose.

For me, it is a mistake at this point is to pit the Big12 vs. Pac12 vs. ACC. The key over the next 5 years is for schools in the two former conferences to create the strongest Conference to minimize the financial gap between the Big10/SEC and a new Big12/Pac. If that means some schools are only in the Big12/Pac for 5 years before jumping to Big10 or SEC- so be it. But schools have to buy into what maximizes value for Big12/Pac vs. their individual school.

IMO realignment decisions are financial and media or Pac12 fans who bring up academics are disingenuous. Every Pac12 school would jump at the chance to join the SEC and it's revenue stream.