Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Gunnerclone]

Curious for the people against San Diego State if you feel similarly about Houston and Cincy? I can’t believe level of fan support is too different? Their attendance is maybe similar/slightly better I believe?

Positive is they’re closer to other big 12 schools but negative is that they don’t allow you to play games in a new time zone like SDSU.

Cincy has a good following in Cincy and throughout OH imo. Especially from the CBUS line south. Cincy people just in general have a pretty great grassroots attitude for their teams. The same people that basically willed FC Cincinnati in to the MLS also like UC athletics. Very “my city” oriented.

 

[exCyDing]

You are correct on the bolded part. As far as seeing other schools, a lot of our local kids go to USC, Cal, and UCLA. A lot of LA people move to San Diego. We are a major city, you are going to see schools from other cities represented. But you are wrong about seeing more of those schools than SDSU. Plain and simple, wrong. Stop passing off your few days of experience as some sort of valuable insight.

My experience seems to echo his, but mine was over 2+ years. Could be a function of my industry and neighborhood, but SDSU fans seemed very few and far between. Hell, one of the bars a couple blocks away from me would show European soccer on Saturday mornings and have a packed house at 8am. I can't recall the sound even being on at a bar for an SDSU game of any kind.

I have a few questions:

1. Where would you rank SDSU among the remaining PAC schools as a B12 target? Remember, market size means **** for the B12 if people in that market aren't watching.
2. Where would you rank SDSU if you added the ACC schools that aren't likely to get a B10/SEC invite?
3. Where do conferences end up topping out for membership? Do the B10/SEC go to 24 each, and does the B12 match?

 

[Acylum]

With all due respect, and I mean that sincerely, I'm not particularly interested in a Big 10 fan's opinion about whether San Diego State should be included in Big 12 expansion.

The thing is, SDSU would be a fart in the wind in the expansion discussion if not for their recent NCAA run. That’s what’s so idiotic. It’s no different than considering Gonzaga as a bball only member. They were nothing before Few, the likelihood is they’ll be nothing after him.

 

[Cloneon]

The thing is, SDSU would be a fart in the wind in the expansion discussion if not for their recent NCAA run. That’s what’s so idiotic. It’s no different than considering Gonzaga as a bball only member. They were nothing before Few, the likelihood is they’ll be nothing after him.

Which explains the poker play by their AD.

 

[sunset]

My experience seems to echo his, but mine was over 2+ years. Could be a function of my industry and neighborhood, but SDSU fans seemed very few and far between. Hell, one of the bars a couple blocks away from me would show European soccer on Saturday mornings and have a packed house at 8am. I can't recall the sound even being on at a bar for an SDSU game of any kind.

I have a few questions:

1. Where would you rank SDSU among the remaining PAC schools as a B12 target? Remember, market size means **** for the B12 if people in that market aren't watching.
2. Where would you rank SDSU if you added the ACC schools that aren't likely to get a B10/SEC invite?
3. Where do conferences end up topping out for membership? Do the B10/SEC go to 24 each, and does the B12 match?

I don’t think SDSU is a good fit for the Big12, that’s not the point I was addressing. I have a problem with people who say that SDSU doesn’t have the support of the local community, especially when their opinion is based on a few days spent on vacation.

We are a destination city so you are always going to see other schools represented, but not more than SDSU. I have two kids in high school and there is way more Aztec gear than any of the schools mentioned by the poster I replied to. Walk the beach or downtown and it’s the same thing. As I said, I don’t think they fit in the Big12 but they do have support and that support would most likely grow if they ever make it into a power conference.

To your sober comment, fans of certain sports/teams have to go to the bar if they want to be around other fans. SDSU fans don’t have to. Walk my neighborhood during a game and you see people cheering them on, same with the Padres. Check the Padres attendance this year, when they have something to get behind San Diego fans show up.

I don’t want to hijack this thread any further so I’ll refrain from replying .

 

[awd4cy]

It’s not viewed as best league and probably weaker vs other European leagues than when I adopted it 23 years ago.

If I only cared about supporting the strongest pro soccer I’d either just watch champions league or dump them for a higher powered EPL team or become a Barcelona fan. The point is I’m a Roma fan purely because of direct exposure. I don’t know if one game in Mexico can do that…living in Iowa for a fall and going to JTS certainly could for a foreign person like it did for me.

As college sports fans we all support a team out of passion vs skill. Watch an nba playoff game. The free throw shooting alone is on a different planet before getting into how they knock down an open fg. Yet because we grew up first and most exposed to college bball, 99% here will claim it’s the better game.

It’s still the top level though. The gap between AS Roma and Manchester City is a lot closer than Iowa State and the Kansas City Chiefs.

 

[AlaCyclone]

I get it, for some people it's nothing but bad...but there is some opportunity there. It's really not a bad flight, flying to west coast is actually more of a chore and we have people who want to be a coast to coast conference. You don't even change time zones from Iowa.

The more I look into Monterey city/stadium it seems like the ultimate fan trip. It would be one time at most over 7-8 years and basically we'd have 3 years in a row of 4 B12 home games instead of the regular 4-5-5-4 rotating. I just assume they'd never leave a team with just 3 home games. I also figure season ticket holders would get some kind of edge for tickets to the game.

If we every expanded to 10 games it'd totally be worth it for a 5, 5, 4+Monterey, 5, 5, 5, 5 cycle. If it's a hit maybe doing it until every team goes once is ideal.

For other sports I don't see the big opportunity, I see the other sports as tagging along for the football opportunity.

If Iowa State plays @ Monterey, I'm there!
I just hope it is some other teams's home game.
'Twould be a great road trip.

 

[HFCS]

It’s still the top level though. The gap between AS Roma and Manchester City is a lot closer than Iowa State and the Kansas City Chiefs.

Overall quality sure, but with American football the next best thing after the 32 NFL teams is immediately major conference college football. Just this year we have real outdoor minor league football again for the first time in ages but everyone knows Ohio State/Alabama/etc is next big thing after NFL.

The point is I didn't pick Roma because I searched for the best league or even the best team in Italy...it's just where I happened to be studying abroad, I'd have been a fan of whatever Euro city team I lived in. They did win the Scudetto that year just after I returned to Ames but they hadn't for 20 years and haven't in 20+ years since.

I think that sort of thing works if you drop a foreign person in a city. I had an Irish friend who became a FANATIC Cubs fan because he lived in Wrigleyville for a year. I'm not sure it works the other way around because a team comes and plays one game in a city or country...but perhaps it happens.

 

[awd4cy]

Weren’t there college football games played in Tokyo a few times in the past? Why’d they quit if it’s such a good money maker playing in foreign countries?

 

[Big Daddy Kang]

Roma? I never know what this thread is about. Is it frozen pizza now?

 

[AlaCyclone]

Weren’t there college football games played in Tokyo a few times in the past? Why’d they quit if it’s such a good money maker playing in foreign countries?

Yes, in the '70s, '80s and '90s. An odd assortment of games including Temple vs. Grambling, Miami (Fla.) vs. Notre Dame, Wisconsin vs. Mich. State and Oklahoma State vs. Texas Tech.

 

[NWICY]

Best baseball movie of all time.

I personally lean towards Bull Durham.

 

[JimmyChitwood]

Not a fan of The Natural?

I prefer somewhat trimmed

 

[TheHelgo]

Best baseball movie of all time.

Major League

 

[Gonzo]

I personally lean towards Bull Durham.

My rankings:
1. The Natural
2. Eight Men Out
3. Bull Durham
4. Field of Dreams
5. A League of Their Own

Most underrated baseball movie: Long Gone.

 

[KidSilverhair]

My rankings:
1. The Natural
2. Eight Men Out
3. Bull Durham
4. Field of Dreams
5. A League of Their Own

Most underrated baseball movie: Long Gone.

That’s a good list. I might rearrange them a little, maybe squeeze Major League and The Sandlot in there somewhere, but you hit the best ones (and The Sandlot isn’t really about baseball, not really).

 

[FarminCy]

JFC. You’d think after months of this thread coming back to life with no news and just the same recycled speculation I’d stop looking. Yet I can’t help myself so I’ll just keep doing it and get educated on baseball movies.

 

[ClonerJams]

 

[AuH2O]

My rankings:
1. The Natural
2. Eight Men Out
3. Bull Durham
4. Field of Dreams
5. A League of Their Own

Most underrated baseball movie: Long Gone.

Need to get yourself a Tampico Stogies jersey.

 

[Bluffers]

I have to include "The Final Season" in the discussion, if for no other reason than it's based on the events of the last season of Norway, Iowa baseball. Just watched it again the other night on Amazon.