This just goes to show how the media thinks of the Big12. It’s ok when the SEC and Big10 do this, but the Big12 is the bad guy by playing the same game.
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This just goes to show how the media thinks of the Big12. It’s ok when the SEC and Big10 do this, but the Big12 is the bad guy by playing the same game.
I don’t buy for a minute there’s any real sentiment by the Big 10 that they are worried about. The four corners leaving isn’t killing the PAC. It doesn’t help, but a conference without the four corners but with UW and UO could pick up G5 and move on. The PAC without UO and UW is toast.
The order doesn’t matter. UW and UO leaving is what will kill the PAC officially, regardless of what the four corners do.
Not to mention nobody actually cares. This idea that there are some sort of implications to a conference “killing the PAC” is super dumb.
This hand-wringing about how these dummies in the media will blame the Big 12 is silly. Who cares?
Or did USC and UCLA kill the PAC by moving to the Big 10?
And despite it being circumstantial at this point, 'any' behind the doors agreements will be considered collusion and, thus are evidence that B1G was, in fact, the primary influencer of the P12 demise. As far as 'who cares', I can see lawsuits launched by the P12 in regards to media damages.
I hear you, but perception does seem to matter for some reason to these conferences. The SEC was concerned about image when OuT joined, emphasizing the whole time that the two schools approached them first, rather than the conference "poaching" them,
Pretty sure other major moves have had a similar pattern.
I think pointing fingers and debating about which conference is responsible is utterly pointless. But that doesn't change the fact that it does seem to matter to people in charge.
In the era of straight up buying players I can't imagine why the predator conferences would care.
Unless there's a cash penalty
Don’t we want the perception that the Big 12 bullied and killed the PAC?
Sign me up for the Big 12 killing the PAC
Beats the “the Big 12 was desperate for PAC but is the last resort and only got schools because they were forced”.
The big difference is Pac12 TV deal and GOR ends June 30, 2024.
So every team in Pac12 is free to explore a new conference. Especially how open OR and WA have been in pursuit in joining Big10. And for that matter, so have Cal and Stanford in their political arm twisting back in December. So not sure why Big10 would have any qualms.
Plus, doesn't sound like Pac12 Conference has presented a solid offer and current deal expires in 13 months.
OU and UT was entirely different because they made their move 4 years before the end of the Big12 media rights deal. And pretty good chance OuT and ESPN were counting on Big12 imploding and non of 3 parties would have any financial liabilities related to Big12.
**** the Big 10. They are highly overrated. They have 2 good football teams and their basketball conference is hot trash. They backstab leagues by stealing teams... they have tons of money and fall short in having a league of decent sports.
Interesting post from an Oregon State fan, "PAC-ALC which is a leadership group dedicated to driving things like research dollars for the members. The B12 doesn’t have a leadership coalition and some speculate that they would be much stronger and less privy to losing key members if they did.".
The Big 10 is proud of their Academic Alliance. Supposedly, even the SEC has something like this too. In order to further galvanize the Big 12 and to combat the Big 12 lack of academics stereotype, something like this may be good thing to put together and promote.
The Big 10 is proud of their Academic Alliance. Supposedly, even the SEC has something like this too. In order to further galvanize the Big 12 and to combat the Big 12 lack of academics stereotype, something like this may be good thing to put together and promote.
I agree watching the best athletes from across the globe compete against each other in a mentally, physically, and emotionally challenging environment using only their physical bodies (which they've honed in like 20 minutes at the gym) is pointless.
When does the Masters tee off again?
That’s why it is so painful to watch this separation of leagues happen in terms of TV revenue. The B1G has so many boring, irrelevant teams and games yet each will get $100 mil…..Rutgers? Illinois? Indiana? Purdue? Maryland? Minnesota? NW? Iowa? Iowa has had success but my God are they boring to watch most of the last 25 years. The big networks certainly aren’t paying for quality.
All of those schools have massive, nationwide alumni bases that are in coveted TV demographics.
Is there a link/article etc. for this?
I think many have strong alumni and all but I'm not sure if I'd include some like NW in there; they seem to be along for the ride at the right time.
No institution that has left the Big 12 did so because of academics. Texas A&M and Nebraska left because of unequal revenue with Texas. Missouri and Colorado left because it was a sinking ship and they wanted off. Texas and Oklahoma left for huge paydays.
The lack of any Big 12 academic alliance had zero bearing on those decisions.
And the B1G's academic 'prestige' as a premise for their super-conference is also B.S.
...which they helped foster in the first place.
7 (soon to be 8) of the Top 10 largest alumni networks in the country are Big Ten schools.
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A&M and Nebraska created the unequal revenue situation
