Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

FriendlySpartan

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I wouldn't be shocked to see them push for higher bowl/CFP payouts for the teams that generate those revenues every year. I don't think they'll ever suggest unequal distribution from the media rights revenue.
Yeah that could possibly happen but I think it would depend on how much is being split, still don’t know the numbers. OSU I can see doing it (especially if they dip once Day is fired) Michigan I highly doubt.
 

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Welcome back Colorado if that indeed proves to be the case, but I hope we all boo the ever living fck out of them when they step into Jack Trice. They contributed to a decade of misery for those of us they left behind and that should follow them around for awhile.
Colorado didn't do anything wrong. Nebraska left and Mizzou was whoring themselves out to the B1G and SEC. Colorado wanted a soft cushion to land on and they found it.
 

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I think the Pac survives if only CU and Arizona leave. And I don't see those 2 leaving unless they feel the conference is collapsing this year. Still say nobody leaves unless Washington and Oregon leave first or minimum of 3 leave. The 3rd is not Utah and not ASU with the AD being the constant mouthpiece for Kliavkoff.

Arizona and Colorado aren't going to just sit around and wait for the inevitable. As soon as UW and Oregon get the call they are B1G bound. This is without even factoring in the gap in TV revenue.
 

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Yeah that could possibly happen but I think it would depend on how much is being split, still don’t know the numbers. OSU I can see doing it (especially if they dip once Day is fired) Michigan I highly doubt.
Agree, I don't necessarily think they would, but just wouldn't be entirely shocked if they did. But yes, hard to imagine anyone wanting to change up the model that has gotten the conference to where it is.
 

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Agree, I don't necessarily think they would, but just wouldn't be entirely shocked if they did. But yes, hard to imagine anyone wanting to change up the model that has gotten the conference to where it is.
To be fair I also have my Michigan blinders on when it comes to this. But we did just deny another star transfer from coming in (Caleb Love) due to academics which seemingly only happens in the Michigan AD.
 

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Colorado didn't do anything wrong. Nebraska left and Mizzou was whoring themselves out to the B1G and SEC. Colorado wanted a soft cushion to land on and they found it.
The University itself is also a much better cultural fit with the old Pac12 than it is with the Big 12. It was more than a sports decision.

Welcome them back with open arms.
 

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The University itself is also a much better cultural fit with the old Pac12 than it is with the Big 12. It was more than a sports decision.

Welcome them back with open arms.

I actually think that their time in the Pac 12 has shown that they were a much better fit in the Big 12, especially with the old Big 8 schools. Colorado has never found their identity in the PAC 12.
 

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I will not forget when Neuheisel was the Colorado head coach. He piled on. They had just scored and an extra point kick would put the game away. I think he went for 2 to really ice the game. My memory is a little foggy on this, but I do remember my dislike of Neuheisel throughout the rest of his career.

No problem with welcoming Colorado back into the fold.
 
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To be fair I also have my Michigan blinders on when it comes to this. But we did just deny another star transfer from coming in (Caleb Love) due to academics which seemingly only happens in the Michigan AD.
I would not say that it only happens there. Those transfers might not even get a look at some schools, so they dont have to deny them. It is also to note that Michigan or their media and fans like to publicise that they pass on players for academics, where others dont seem to push that narrative.

Michigan has a bit of an ego, and likes to claim/brag to be all high and mighty, where others do many of the same things but dont brag about it.
 

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I would not say that it only happens there. Those transfers might not even get a look at some schools, so they dont have to deny them. It is also to note that Michigan or their media and fans like to publicise that they pass on players for academics, where others dont seem to push that narrative.

Michigan has a bit of an ego, and likes to claim/brag to be all high and mighty, where others do many of the same things but dont brag about it.
They don’t pass on the players, the players commit and then admissions denies them. This really doesn’t happen to star players at other schools especially not with the frequency it happens at Michigan. Maybe a fringe guy gets denied
 
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They don’t pass on the players, the players commit and then admissions denies them. This really doesn’t happen to star players at other schools especially not with the frequency it happens at Michigan. Maybe a fringe guy gets denied
I've also seen coaches use the admissions office when they've changed their mind on a kid that they weren't thrilled about to begin with. Not that that was anywhere near the situation with Love.
 

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Right now, I don't think Big10 or SEC teams have to worry about that. There is a big gap between what the Big10 and SEC are getting compared to everyone else; plus the big schools in both conference have the resources they need to beat one another. The ACC unequal revenue sharing is just a small way for the bigger schools to feel good about themselves. The material amount more the bigger ACC schools make from this won't make a material difference when compared to the Big10 and SEC.

Maybe 10 or so years down the road, the Big10 or SEC teams could start to raise a stink when the P2 are more established as their own brand. But in the short term, I don't think its unequal revenue sharing is something that concerns the big schools in the Big10 and SEC.

Where it might happen for the big 10\SEC is if the revenue stops increasing at such high rates from the media partners.

Perpetual growth is the expectation in many parts of our society, no matter how unrealistic that is. Its easier for the big brands in the B10\SEC to deal with equal revenue sharing while their paycheck is still rising large amounts every year.

If the tv partners say 'we're tapped out, this is all we can do', and the growth stops from that angle, that's when the big brands will start to look at other ways to keep that growth going, whether that be through unequal revenue sharing, or splitting off to do their own thing entirely.
 
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I will not forget when Neuheisel was the Colorado head coach. He piled on. They had just scored and an extra point kick would put the game away. I think he went for 2 to really ice the game. My memory is a little foggy on this, but I do remember my dislike of Neuheisel throughout the rest of his career.

No problem with welcoming Colorado back into the fold.

CU went for 2 three times in the 4th quarter. The last one was with just over 2 minutes left, up by 22 (it failed).

Oh, and Colorado was around a 24-point favorite. Hmm.
 
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CU went for 2 three times in the 4th quarter. The last one was with just over 2 minutes left, up by 22 (it failed).

Oh, and Colorado was around a 24-point favorite. Hmm.
Thanks. It was worse than I thought. No wonder I still don't like the guy. Running up the score was really poor sportsmanship on his part, but it seems he might have been under some pressure to do that.

Oh well. Still would like us to consider Colorado.
 

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They don’t pass on the players, the players commit and then admissions denies them. This really doesn’t happen to star players at other schools especially not with the frequency it happens at Michigan. Maybe a fringe guy gets denied
You dont think that your connection to the Michigan program brings you more news and information from those programs, as local media, etc cover Michigan, and their news.

Where the same information is not covered in Michigan from other parts of the country due to it not being a story locally?

Just like I am sure I hear much more information about Iowa State than I hear about Michigan or USC here, than those in Michigan or Cali do.

I am not denying that Michigan passes on players for academic reasons, and maybe more often than others, I am saying that I am sure others do as well it is just not Newsworthing in the Michigan area when its not about a Michigan institution. In the same manner you would be less inclined to pay attention to said news when it was about an institution you dont follow directly.

There are often commits that dont make the grades to get in, at a lot of schools. Many times those go unnoticed, especially when a school doesnt want to use it as a feather in their cap about how special they are, or the player is high end recruit. Many times recruits know they cant make the grade at a location before they commit somewhere.
 
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Yeah that could possibly happen but I think it would depend on how much is being split, still don’t know the numbers. OSU I can see doing it (especially if they dip once Day is fired) Michigan I highly doubt.

Lol at tOSU “dipping”. Unless NIL goes away they aren’t dipping.
 

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You dont think that your connection to the Michigan program brings you more news and information from those programs, as local media, etc cover Michigan, and their news.

Where the same information is not covered in Michigan from other parts of the country due to it not being a story locally?

Just like I am sure I hear much more information about Iowa State than I hear about Michigan or USC here, than those in Michigan or Cali do.

I am not denying that Michigan passes on players for academic reasons, and maybe more often than others, I am saying that I am sure others do as well it is just not Newsworthing in the Michigan area when its not about a Michigan institution. In the same manner you would be less inclined to pay attention to said news when it was about an institution you dont follow directly.

There are often commits that dont make the grades to get in, at a lot of schools. Many times those go unnoticed, especially when a school doesnt want to use it as a feather in their cap about how special they are, or the player is high end recruit. Many times recruits know they cant make the grade at a location before they commit somewhere.
No you’re 100% right I have my bias towards it. I guess I just don’t look at it as passing on a player when the player is committed and then admissions pulls the rug out. Probably hear it a lot more in the echo chamber that is Michigan media though.
 
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CU went for 2 three times in the 4th quarter. The last one was with just over 2 minutes left, up by 22 (it failed).

Oh, and Colorado was around a 24-point favorite. Hmm.
Same reason I've told my Nebraska friends I don't care for Tom Osborne. More than once when they had missed an extra point, he would get it back by running a trick play for 2 points later. Obviously he wanted fans all around the country to know they scored 9 touchdowns on Iowa State, rather than think 8 TDs and 2 FGs. Oh the shame of having others believe Iowa State forced you to kick field goals!!!! Twice!! Can't let that happen.