Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[exCyDing]

Welcome back Colorado if that indeed proves to be the case, but I hope we all boo the ever living fck out of them when they step into Jack Trice. They contributed to a decade of misery for those of us they left behind and that should follow them around for awhile.

Boo the **** out of ‘em, but virtually nothing would have played out any differently over the past 13 years if CO stayed in the B12. CO jumped ship when they could. They didn’t have anything to do with causing the instability. If ISU had the same option to leave in 2010, I would have fully supported them doing just that.

 

[HouClone]

I think the Pac survives if only CU and Arizona leave. And I don't see those 2 leaving unless they feel the conference is collapsing this year. Still say nobody leaves unless Washington and Oregon leave first or minimum of 3 leave. The 3rd is not Utah and not ASU with the AD being the constant mouthpiece for Kliavkoff.

 

[HouClone]

If B12 is all about culture we'd take osu, wsu, CU, and UA..I know that not likely, but I can dream. I'd much rather have OSU and WSU than ASU and Utah

Agree that culturally, OSU and WSU fit more in the Big 12. Ag schools. And they would fit in with us where we are not on anybody's radar for Big 10/SEC expansion. But for other reasons, other schools are ahead on the list.

 

[LLCoolCY]

Desperation is a stinky cologne.

 

[SCNCY]

Desperation is a stinky cologne.

Just the first step in the plan for unequal revenue sharing.

 

[Gonzo]

Desperation is a stinky cologne.

So ACC's Board of Directors believe the conference's best programs and biggest football brands will show loyalty once the GoR has expired. Funny.

 

[2speedy1]

So ACC's Board of Directors believe the conference's best programs and biggest football brands will show loyalty once the GoR has expired. Funny.

Yeah, pretty stupid.

First those getting a small increase from this will still be well below the B1G and SEC, and those not will be even farther behind.

In the end they all will still want to leave as soon as they can, and will just cause more division among them.

This at best is a way for a few programs to take more from the others, while they can.

 

[Cloneon]

Desperation is a stinky cologne.

The key is 'how much?'. Is it 'shared' with the rest of the league? And, if so in what proportional amount? Given post season payouts from playoffs, this could be significant in keeping the elite portion of the league beholden to the conference.

 

[SCNCY]

The key is 'how much?'. Is it 'shared' with the rest of the league? And, if so in what proportional amount? Given post season payouts from playoffs, this could be significant in keeping the elite portion of the league beholden to the conference.

I wonder if it could mean that bowl payouts and NCAA tournament games are retained by the school that earns it?

 

[Gonzo]

The key is 'how much?'. Is it 'shared' with the rest of the league? And, if so in what proportional amount? Given post season payouts from playoffs, this could be significant in keeping the elite portion of the league beholden to the conference.

I don't think the elite programs will be beholden to the ACC, when they have a chance to bolt for much bigger $$$ to the SEC or B1G, they gone.

 

[Gonzo]

I wonder if it could mean that bowl payouts and NCAA tournament games are retained by the school that earns it?

I actually think it's fair to give more $$$ generated by bowl games, CFP appearances, etc., to the programs that earn those bowl/CFP spots. I don't think it'd be right to go with unequal distribution of revenues from the conference's media rights deal.

 

[exCyDing]

I don't think the elite programs will be beholden to the ACC, when they have a chance to bolt for much bigger $$$ to the SEC or B1G, they gone.

Yes. They don't have a big enough pie where cutting some schools a bigger slice than others matches up to the slice the B10/SEC could give them. It might calm some people down, but it doesn't really change that those schools are gone as soon as they find a way out of the GOR, they can buy their way out, or the GOR expires.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

The key is 'how much?'. Is it 'shared' with the rest of the league? And, if so in what proportional amount? Given post season payouts from playoffs, this could be significant in keeping the elite portion of the league beholden to the conference.

What’s interesting is they have apparently agreed to this without knowing what the new payouts for the playoff will look like.

 

[isucy86]

So ACC's Board of Directors believe the conference's best programs and biggest football brands will show loyalty once the GoR has expired. Funny.

I don't think they have delusions regarding realignment. They understand in the current arm$ race in college athletics, the ACC needs to remain relevant until the GOR expires.

To be relevant, they have bought into the manta- money wins games. No different than what we see in professional sports like MLB. So the masses in the ACC will go along with revenue sharing in hopes that enables a couple of it's teams to get in CFP each year.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I don't think they have delusions regarding realignment. They understand in the current arm$ race in college athletics, the ACC needs to remain relevant until the GOR expires.

To be relevant, they have bought into the manta- money wins games. No different than what we see in professional sports like MLB. So the masses in the ACC will go along with revenue sharing in hopes that enables a couple of it's teams to get in CFP each year.

Unequal sharing is a stop far along the trail of failure.

 

[BCClone]

So the ACC is going this route, decent chance the PAC may go this route, MWC is already there, Big 12 was (now teams are pretty equal and guessing they will be the last to do it). How long before Bama, Georgia, OSU and Mich say they are pulling in the big bucks from the playoffs and want some? I know Spartan says it will never happen in the big ten since they are all looking out for each other, but I think those teams could have an itch soon.

 

[Gonzo]

I don't think they have delusions regarding realignment. They understand in the current arm$ race in college athletics, the ACC needs to remain relevant until the GOR expires.

To be relevant, they have bought into the manta- money wins games. No different than what we see in professional sports like MLB. So the masses in the ACC will go along with revenue sharing in hopes that enables a couple of it's teams to get in CFP each year.

The masses in the ACC will go along with getting fleeced by the very programs that will most likely bolt the conference the first chance they get?

 

[FriendlySpartan]

So the ACC is going this route, decent chance the PAC may go this route, MWC is already there, Big 12 was (now teams are pretty equal and guessing they will be the last to do it). How long before Bama, Georgia, OSU and Mich say they are pulling in the big bucks from the playoffs and want some? I know Spartan says it will never happen in the big ten since they are all looking out for each other, but I think those teams could have an itch soon.

Actually I just said Michigan would never push for it, no idea about OSU.

 

[Gonzo]

Actually I just said Michigan would never push for it, no idea about OSU.

I wouldn't be shocked to see them push for higher bowl/CFP payouts for the teams that generate those revenues every year. I don't think they'll ever suggest unequal distribution from the media rights revenue.

 

[SCNCY]

So the ACC is going this route, decent chance the PAC may go this route, MWC is already there, Big 12 was (now teams are pretty equal and guessing they will be the last to do it). How long before Bama, Georgia, OSU and Mich say they are pulling in the big bucks from the playoffs and want some? I know Spartan says it will never happen in the big ten since they are all looking out for each other, but I think those teams could have an itch soon.

Right now, I don't think Big10 or SEC teams have to worry about that. There is a big gap between what the Big10 and SEC are getting compared to everyone else; plus the big schools in both conference have the resources they need to beat one another. The ACC unequal revenue sharing is just a small way for the bigger schools to feel good about themselves. The material amount more the bigger ACC schools make from this won't make a material difference when compared to the Big10 and SEC.

Maybe 10 or so years down the road, the Big10 or SEC teams could start to raise a stink when the P2 are more established as their own brand. But in the short term, I don't think its unequal revenue sharing is something that concerns the big schools in the Big10 and SEC.