Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Clonehomer]

How is this going to work when someone like me is flipping around sports channels? Say you are on YouTubeTV, Sling, Comcast, ATT, etc interface watching CBS, Fox, NBC. Get out of it, fire up Roku or go to your Smart Tv apps, and sign in the ESPN app? That's a lot of work. Unless there is an ISU, Big 12, or some other compelling game on ESPN, I may stick on the main interface, even if 30-50% of the games are ESPN.

The TV boxes are going to have to adapt. More processing power and RAM to allow for you to have more than 1 app running at a time would help flipping back and forth. Currently, most devices will only run one at a time, thus causing you to start the app back up whenever you switch. Basically going to need something like the old picture in picture TV's with multiple tuners.

If someone figures that out, they're going to make some money.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

The TV boxes are going to have to adapt. More processing power and RAM to allow for you to have more than 1 app running at a time would help flipping back and forth. Currently, most devices will only run one at a time, thus causing you to start the app back up whenever you switch. Basically going to need something like the old picture in picture TV's with multiple tuners.

If someone figures that out, they're going to make some money.

It’s called an Xbox or a PlayStation. I don’t even know anyone who uses a “tv box”

Edit* wait did you mean “tv box” as in a smart TV?

 

[Clonehomer]

It’s called an Xbox or a PlayStation. I don’t even know anyone who uses a “tv box”

Edit* wait did you mean “tv box” as in a smart TV?

Roku's, Apple TV, Fire sticks, ect

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Roku's, Apple TV, Fire sticks, ect

That makes way more sense and totally agree

 

[LivntheCyLife]

The TV boxes are going to have to adapt. More processing power and RAM to allow for you to have more than 1 app running at a time would help flipping back and forth. Currently, most devices will only run one at a time, thus causing you to start the app back up whenever you switch. Basically going to need something like the old picture in picture TV's with multiple tuners.

If someone figures that out, they're going to make some money.

I think there's plenty of processing power. It's the network speed to stream multiple broadcasts that is the limiting issue.

To streamers, it's also currently a feature not a bug as it keeps people captive to watch their ads rather than channel flip. So there's no reason for them to build apps that allow streaming in the background. It might gradually be a feature consumers demand but I wouldn't expect it change any time soon.

 

[ISUCyclones2015]

Interesting note (link at bottom has a bunch of politics in it so beware)...Disney/ESPN going to increase its price for streamers (not shocking):

A Whole New World: Disney on Wednesday reported its quarterly earnings, narrowing its losses on streaming and offering a peek at future plans for the media juggernaut. Chief executive Bob Iger announced the company plans to fold Hulu into the Disney+ app by the end of the year to create a "one-app" experience. Standalone options for all of its platforms, including ESPN+, will also remain, he said. But plans are afoot to raise subscription prices and drop some of the platforms' content. Iger said the company will be taking a $1.5 billion to $1.8 billion charge related to the removal. "Going forward we intend to produce lower volumes of content," he said.

from: https://view.newsletters.cnn.com/messages/16837796845222acf50e3996d/raw?utm_term=16837796845222acf50e3996d&utm_source=cnn_Reliable+Sources+-+May+10,+2023&utm_medium=email&bt_ee=Lb7h3rCaCYUg8siHqowQ5H7AiLq4e2XsnLQSGBcj3Nb6rARK3HujVfGHI2kotMFbn1uQKxmjQCJLO3C2klnUPg==&bt_ts=1683779684526

My bundle just got renamed “LEGACY Disney,Hulu,and ESPN+” in the account settings

 

[aeroclone]

I think there's plenty of processing power. It's the network speed to stream multiple broadcasts that is the limiting issue.

To streamers, it's also currently a feature not a bug as it keeps people captive to watch their ads rather than channel flip. So there's no reason for them to build apps that allow streaming in the background. It might gradually be a feature consumers demand but I wouldn't expect it change any time soon.

I'm not sure about that. Netflix recommends 15 Meg for 4k. YoutubeTV recommends 25 Meg. I have had 1 Gig fiber service for 7 or 8 years now. That should be good for 40 simultaneous 4k streams. Service for several hundred megs over cable has been common for a decade.

There is more that enough pipeline to run a few streams simultaneously, the limit is the software or processing power on the streaming device... Or the app makers aren't motivated to support easier switching because they actually consider it to be a feature.

 

[HouClone]

Pac supporters, particularly by Utah, turning the Big 10 contract news into questioning what's really in the Big 12 contract and how much streaming content. Here comes Wilner to feed into it:



Say 50% of the Big 12 games are on ESPN+. Big 12 contract is about 60% ESPN /40% Fox. Fox is 100% linear. Doing the algebra, 70% linear / 30% streaming. That is exactly what Dennis Dodds posted in early April of no less than 70% linear.

 

[alarson]

Pac supporters, particularly by Utah, turning the Big 10 contract news into questioning what's really in the Big 12 contract and how much streaming content. Here comes Wilner to feed into it:



Say 50% of the Big 12 games are on ESPN+. Big 12 contract is about 60% ESPN /40% Fox. Fox is 100% linear. Doing the algebra, 70% linear / 30% streaming. That is exactly what Dennis Dodds posted in early April of no less than 70% linear.

Also, let's not pretend all streaming is created equal. Espn+ is still better than being on appletv or something like that due to the sheer amount of sports on espn

 

[JHUNSY]

 

[2speedy1]

10-4. I think some are confused on some of the reporting...

There are several apps out there that are like this already, Peacock, Paramount, HBO, AMC etc.

All have versions of live channels on their streaming apps, with bonus content for subscribers.

ESPN will still be available on Cable/Sat packages for the foreseeble future. But it will also add the main channel content on the subscription app.

So you wont have to have a cable/sat package to see the main ESPN channels on the app. But if you do you still will see the content on your cable package.

It was just announced that Disney+ content will be integrated into Hulu Live+ just as ESPN+ content is, in the near future. So all the Disney content will be available from the Hulu interface without having to switch apps from Hulu to Disney to ESPN.

There are also apps now that allow you to add your subs to the app and can view a guide and interface that incorporates all of them in one place. Ive looked at a couple, they need a little work but they are on the right track.

 

[2speedy1]

The TV boxes are going to have to adapt. More processing power and RAM to allow for you to have more than 1 app running at a time would help flipping back and forth. Currently, most devices will only run one at a time, thus causing you to start the app back up whenever you switch. Basically going to need something like the old picture in picture TV's with multiple tuners.

If someone figures that out, they're going to make some money.

JustWatch app
SelectTV app
FreeCast app


These are currently apps similar to what you are talking about. They need a bit of work but are on the right track to make all your subs and other content available from one app interface.

 

[Cloneon]

I think there's plenty of processing power. It's the network speed to stream multiple broadcasts that is the limiting issue.

To streamers, it's also currently a feature not a bug as it keeps people captive to watch their ads rather than channel flip. So there's no reason for them to build apps that allow streaming in the background. It might gradually be a feature consumers demand but I wouldn't expect it change any time soon.

If that's the case, the industry is in the dark ages. Back in the 80's I designed a network for a government agency to perform this exact type of scenario.
A screen only holds so many pixels. Connection logic should first determine the destination(s) resolution, downsize, and compress the streams per the destination(s). So, a multi-pane view would/should be no different. The problem to which you're referring would be more prevalent if there are multiple displays(TVs) per household on different sources. Furthermore, compression algorithms have advanced 100s fold, so short of 'dial-up', I'm surprised if 'bandwidth' is an issue. Much more likely is the 'quality' of the connection interfering with the cadence of the signal.

 

[AuH2O]

The TV boxes are going to have to adapt. More processing power and RAM to allow for you to have more than 1 app running at a time would help flipping back and forth. Currently, most devices will only run one at a time, thus causing you to start the app back up whenever you switch. Basically going to need something like the old picture in picture TV's with multiple tuners.

If someone figures that out, they're going to make some money.

Hulu already integrates ESPN+ app games in your Home Screen or if you check the directory for sports. Those aren’t in the channel list of course because the number of games would overwhelm it, but this is already happening.

Even if they were ever to leave these sub services down the road, it would make sense for both parties to allow integration of an ESPN app into a sub service app to access it.

Amazon does a level of integration of apps as well.

So I think you’ll see this type of integration be the norm.

 

[CoachHines3]

And this is one of the dudes who couldn't keep his mouth closed when talking about the Pac-12 media deal. Of course the Wash St. Prez was talking like a deal was going to get done.

He NEEDS it to get done lol

 

[CascadeClone]

If Schulz, who has EVERY motivation to prop up the P12 and keep it alive - it's their only real option short of a 30 team Big12 - is starting to say things that admit to the money issues and point at the conference leadership... that is real real bad.

What's his motivation here? Semi-subtle public argument against unequal revenue sharing? Disclose problems in his department but blame the P12 leadership to CYA? First step in a budget request from the state? Or maybe its a scandal he is just trying to get out in front of...

 

[JM4CY]

And this is one of the dudes who couldn't keep his mouth closed when talking about the Pac-12 media deal. Of course the Wash St. Prez was talking like a deal was going to get done.

He NEEDS it to get done lol

I need to get done.

 

[CoachHines3]

I need to get done.

your mother got it done last night.

 

[simply1]

If Schulz, who has EVERY motivation to prop up the P12 and keep it alive - it's their only real option short of a 30 team Big12 - is starting to say things that admit to the money issues and point at the conference leadership... that is real real bad.

What's his motivation here? Semi-subtle public argument against unequal revenue sharing? Disclose problems in his department but blame the P12 leadership to CYA? First step in a budget request from the state? Or maybe its a scandal he is just trying to get out in front of...

The reasons seem to be transparent

as result of overpayments from one of the conference media partners that must be resolved. Relocation of the Pac‑12 headquarters out of San Francisco exceeded budget projections as well. Additionally, WSU projects that Cougar Athletics exceeded its expenditures for the year due to inadequate documentation of revenues and expenses.”

 

[Cloneon]

The reasons seem to be transparent

Gotta be real careful here. Per my ex-source, there was some VERY shady reporting/accounting going on with Scott so that he could get his commissions. Definitely in the WOW department. I won't say anything else, but an accounting review would reveal it.