i think there is talent- it's young. Now, do they continue to develop or do they plataue?
the offensive line, i think, just doesn't have talent.
Campbell’s Offense
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the offensive line, i think, just doesn't have talent.
No he wasn’t. Played two years under Campbell and was very good. Idk if I’m going to blame Campbell for anything regarding him. He had his best two years those two seasons. Brock was very good all 4 years here. I’m not shocked that the beat offensive scheme with the some of the best offensive players are making Brock look even better.
So, just to be clear, you're saying that 2019 and 2021 were disappointing seasons? Two seasons that, in a vacuum, would still be among the best in Iowa State history?
I understand that 2021 definitely (maybe 2019, but not close to the same way as 2021) was disappointing relative to pre-season expectations. But I have a hard time counting it as a negative against the coach when the expectations were only high because of that coach's own singular accomplishments that raised the bar to that point.
When a team hires a new offensive coordinator because the previous offensive coordinator/offense was bad, they bring in a new scheme, new plays, and new play calling which usually takes a year or two to fully implement. If that were the case, these threads wouldn’t even be posted. The offense ISU is running is the exact same offense as the previous OC, which means it wasn’t Tom Manning’s offense, but Matt Campbell’s offense. Nate S. is irrelevant to talk about because he’s only calling what Matt Campbell wants in Matt Campbell’s offense. He’s OC in name only. He’s not actually running the offense. Campbell is.
Campbell and staff have shown that they can build and sustain elite defense, and quite frankly, do an elite job of getting the players and putting them in position to succeed on the defensive side only. The offense is beginner level from the scheme to the play calling and has been this way for years. The difference between this year and last year compared to the previous 3-4 seasons is that the offense doesn’t have NFL skill position players and especially an NFL level starting QB to overcome the predictable and Mickey Mouse offense. This team is going to be in every game by score only because of how good the defense is built, but actually not in the game because the offense is laughable. It’s not the players fault the offense is schemed so poorly that it sets them up for failure. The pick 6 Rocco threw you could see coming a mile away because ISU only ran quick outs and crossing routes so the players on the Iowa side were just sitting back and waiting. I said on the previous drive the Rocco is going to throw an interception unless they change the play calling, and of course they didn’t, and he threw a pick 6. The offense is predictable and pathetic
This reminds me of something. Years ago, Iowa fired their baseball coach because "they wanted to go in a different direction". Then they proceeded to promote the asst coach to head coach. That is NOT how you change direction...
I had been pretty encouraged by the NS hire - young smart guy trying to make his bones. But recalling the above throws a lot of cold water on my excitement.
Can't wait for the game this weekend! The Iowa game put a sour taste in our mouths and beating solid Ohio team on the road would be a big positive for this football team and young offense. This game is about getting some momentum for the conference slate coming up.
And others will say “fire Campbell” two games into the season with a team who’s offense is predominately made up of freshman and sophomores and has an almost entirely new offensive staff
Idk if scheme is the issue though. It's being conservative and not creative. To do so though, you have to get a run game going. Our OL was okay against UNI in the run and bad against Iowa, which isn't shocking. Nate needs those guys to help out the passing game.
Who cares! Kirk started out 0-4 vs ISU, 2-5 through his first 7 games. Quit your ********
I also think it may be time, or passed the time, to talk about the fact that Noel has hurt our offense far more than he's helped. The drops he had were soul crushing to the offense and it's happened time and time again.
He very much had a bad game last Saturday. I don't see him getting less snaps, so he has to be better for us to be successful.
In re-watching the Iowa game, I thought there were times the OL did their job only to have a TE not make his block. As a senior, we need Dean to block like Chase did for our run game to be successful.
Yeah I agree with the frustration - especially on the offense. Part of my comment was also referring to the people who were talking about Campbell not recruiting good enough players even though he has been winning / putting players in the NFL significantly better than his predecessors.
How about everyone stops overreacting to a game that is always going to be a bad match up for the cyclones?
I hope Dean figures it out blocking because even in the UNI game he struggled.
In my rewatch, I also thought there were times where the OL did create a hole, but it wasn't where the play was designed to go, and Sama and Norton missed it. In fact, I think on at least several of the runs that went for no yards or negative yards, it was as much on Norton and Sama for not just taking the couple of yards that were there, and instead they tried to stretch it out or force it to the spot the run was supposed to go.
Basically this.
Iowa is good enough, athletic enough and well-coached enough to where we weren't/aren't going to beat them horizontally. Time after time we ran off tackle, threw WR screens, or short outs. You hit the nail on the head with the interception. Yes, Rocco stared down his target but you expect that with a freshman QB from time to time. We then ran a low percentage, low yield play that allowed the defense the opportunity to jump the route. The fault is mostly with the design and call.
The play shouldn't have even been in the playbook let alone called.
O-Line was actually better than it was against UNi. Part of the problem is we didn't attack the middle of the field enough, something I thought was imperative to soften up the linebackers and make them play honest.
I think we made it too easy for Iowa to defend us, a constant theme and problem in the Campbell era.
Sebastian Castro intercepts the pass and takes it 30 yards for the pick-six extending Iowa's lead against Iowa State | FOX Sports
Sebastian Castro intercepted the pass and took it 30 yards for the pick-six to extend the Iowa Hawkeyes' lead against the Iowa State Cyclones.
Man I tell you what though... That's just the wrong throw by a freshman. His eyes went left right away but watch Jaylin on this play and even Brahmer I believe who's in there. Nwankpa engages our TE downfield and it leaves Noel wide open for if thrown well would've been either a huge gain or maybe even a TD.
Repeating but the last play was a whiff and my have been successful if Dean just creates any delay.
