49ers - Brock Purdy - Still and Always #1

[Big_Sill]

So many of the "experts" like to diminish Purdy's accomplishments by pointing out that 48.5 % of his total passing yards come from YAC since he has such talented receivers. However, these "experts" don't mention the fact that the 4 most recent quarterback MVP's (including Rogers and Mahomes) all had an even higher percentage of their total passing yards come from YAC.

So much for the idiot experts.

You are correct, and this is a great observation.

I do wonder however, how is YAC determined? does their have to be actual "C" as in contact? Seems like the 49er's guys get a lot of yards before they are contacted because of great throws by Purdy and scheme.

 

[NorthCyd]

So many of the "experts" like to diminish Purdy's accomplishments by pointing out that 48.5 % of his total passing yards come from YAC since he has such talented receivers. However, these "experts" don't mention the fact that the 4 most recent quarterback MVP's (including Rogers and Mahomes) all had an even higher percentage of their total passing yards come from YAC.

So much for the idiot experts.

Then they just counter with "Yeah, but Shanahan is so good the recievers are wide open and any QB can make that throw." So essentially their argument is Shannahan is so good at his job he can take any QB and they will have HOF stats under him. Essentially he's the greatest coach in any sport ever. That's what their argument boils down to.

 

[goody2012]

You are correct, and this is a great observation.

I do wonder however, how is YAC determined? does their have to be actual "C" as in contact? Seems like the 49er's guys get a lot of yards before they are contacted because of great throws by Purdy and scheme.

The C is for catch, not contact

 

[bosco]

The C is for catch, not contact

 

[goody2012]

Not sure what this means...

 

[tmi9724]

Not sure what this means...

C is for COOKIE!!! NOM NOM NOM

Basic Sesame Street

 

[goody2012]

C is for COOKIE!!! NOM NOM NOM

Basic Sesame Street

Okay

 

[Big_Sill]

The C is for catch, not contact

great point, my bad. I guess YAC for running backs is yards after contact.

 

[tmi9724]

Then they just counter with "Yeah, but Shanahan is so good the recievers are wide open and any QB can make that throw." So essentially their argument is Shannahan is so good at his job he can take any QB and they will have HOF stats under him. Essentially he's the greatest coach in any sport ever. That's what their argument boils down to.

Yet, but when the media was drooling over Tua at the beginning of the season, no one pointed out he has the “F*** it, Tyreek down there somewhere” at his disposal. The whole YAC argument is lazy, like do you not want your QB to help pick up easy yards?

 

[Sigmapolis]

I thought YAC (catch) and YAK (contact) were separate stats?

 

[nrg4isu]

Then they just counter with "Yeah, but Shanahan is so good the recievers are wide open and any QB can make that throw." So essentially their argument is Shannahan is so good at his job he can take any QB and they will have HOF stats under him. Essentially he's the greatest coach in any sport ever. That's what their argument boils down to.

And that argument can be shot down by saying well, why didn't Trey Lance or Jimmy G work out? The doubters will respond by saying, they didn't have Christian McCaffery.

So in short, Purdy is only good because he has the best coach, best RB, best offensive talent etc. and all of that discounts how good he is.

It's a load of **** of course. None of those things work well unless Purdy is also great. You can draw up the best plays, but if you don't have a QB to change the play pre-snap, it won't matter. You can have the best WRs, but it won't matter unless the ball is thrown to them. And you can have the best RB, but if that's all you got teams can scheme and stop him. The QB is the lynchpin of all good offenses, that's why they (usually) get so much credit/flak when they're good/bad offenses.

And don't forget, for all of the talent that Purdy has around him, his offensive line is mediocre at best (outside of #71). That was the biggest thing I saw in the Eagles game. How freaking good would the be if they had the Eagles offensive line? Hurts has alllll day to throw (against a good niners pass rush).

 

[psycln11]

To all the national media types that say he a system QB... He still has to make the right reads, beat the blitz, get the ball to his weapons, etc.

Purdy has been extremely accurate this season putting the ball in the hands of his receivers where they don't have to adjust, slow down, reach back, etc. He puts it to where they can catch the ball, make a move and waltz into the end zone untouched.

 

[4theCYcle]

It is damaging to the media industry of a surface level analysis of draft prospects and focus on top college programs and their players.

Which is why the guys who spend the most time running their mouths about that stuff (i.e. Cowherd and some others) are so invested in protecting the narrative instead of putting in the work and looking more closely. They only care about the next 8 minute segment. They don't want to know more than what fits into that.

When you look at real NFL analysts, the guys who are looking at tons of tape and talking to teammates and coaches, they were almost all on board with Purdy real early.

Yep, Matt Waldman was in early on him and had watched plenty of tape on him. Sadly, he has/had to defend himself pretty regularly about believing in Purdy early. The "system" QB was the repeated response, because of all his weapons he has at his disposal. I saw a tweet yesterday that said of the last 4 MVP season winners, Purdy would have the lowest YAC yards of any of them (I think it was like 46.8% or 48.6% and Lamar and Rodgers were at or above 50%. So, it's not even a good argument for people to use that he doesn't throw the deep ball or all his completions are YAC. Brock literally is 1st in so many categories and these pundits don't know what to do with themselves.

Keep defying the media Brock. His humble attitude is awesome to see and as much as I don't like the 9ers overall, I've even gravitated to cheering them on lately because of his success and wanting a super bowl for him. I like CMC, Aiyuk and can even admit I like Kittle too. I just don't want my packers playing them if they make it in the playoffs. Strong team.

It is also awesome to see his teammates come to his defense so often. I can't remember who said it, maybe Trent Williams, but said yeah we were confident in this game from the get go, but it's much different this time around when we actually have a QB.

Also, so fun with Haliburton in the NBA too.

 

[ScottyP]

Looking back, I wish Iowa State's offense would have utilized more of the middle of the field and opportunities for YAC similar to San Fran. Fortunately, we started to see more of that this past season with Nate S.

I think Purdy would have done even better if Nate Scheelhaase was the O.C. instead of Manning.

 

[bawbie]

I just don't understand how Tom Brady as a 7th round pick always seemed to be considered a huge underdog success story and revered for it, but Brock as a 7th round pick is despised and torn down. It doesn't make any sense.

And yes, I think Brady is the best comp for Purdy at this point in his career - although Purdy has had more success through 16 starts than Brady did.

 

[bawbie]

I think Purdy would have done even better if Nate Scheelhaase was the O.C. instead of Manning.

Well that's the understatement of the day

 

[4theCYcle]

So many of the "experts" like to diminish Purdy's accomplishments by pointing out that 48.5 % of his total passing yards come from YAC since he has such talented receivers. However, these "experts" don't mention the fact that the 4 most recent quarterback MVP's (including Rogers and Mahomes) all had an even higher percentage of their total passing yards come from YAC.

So much for the idiot experts.

Ha, whoops, I didn't read your post yet. I literally just posted this.

 

[FerShizzle]

Looking back, I wish Iowa State's offense would have utilized more of the middle of the field and opportunities for YAC similar to San Fran. Fortunately, we started to see more of that this past season with Nate S.

I think Purdy would have done even better if Nate Scheelhaase was the O.C. instead of Manning.

you mean the OC that struggled with the best QB, RB, TE in school history? while also having a top flight defense on the other side and a WR room that was way above average. that guy?

 

[houjix]

I thought YAC (catch) and YAK (contact) were separate stats?

They are both referred to as YAC. On a rush it is contact, on a reception it is catch.

 

[Sigmapolis]

They are both referred to as YAC. On a rush it is contact, on a reception it is catch.

I thought they had different abbreviations to distinguish between the two, though.