Only 1 deep ball over the middle.....

[isufbcurt]

EIU did not record a sack on Saturday, the line was giving him plenty of time and he had a nice pocket throw out of. The mistake was looking down the receiver the entire time and not scanning the field. We see it happen all the time in football, a QB looking at his target the entire route and when he does, it draws the defenders to the ball.

Quick slants especially are designed to throw quick to the #1 receiver.

Sometimes the other team just makes a good play. Just like we did on Porter's 1st INT.

 

[ClubCy]

Its called being an informed fan and trying to figure out what we are doing out there, and just not sitting and drinking beer throughout the game. No one is saying the coaches are not watching, its a learning experience for all the players and this is how they learn.

Are you implying that they learn from getting on CF to see what your breakdown and analysis is?

 

[madguy30]

Unless you have a great OL, most QB’s don’t have time to scan the field each play. Especially when you are backed up and can’t afford to take a sack. You hit the target the play was designed for or hit your check down.

As for changing the play on 3rd and 2 you keep talking about, don’t you think that maybe after seeing Iowa lined up the staff realized the play wasn’t going to work? I don’t think they planned on the false starts. It’s pretty typical to not air it out inside your own 10.

This is how a general snap looks.



'But he was open on my TV!!!!'

/s

 

[rosshm16]

This ain’t John Shoop running this offense.

 

[Cydwinder]

EIU did not record a sack on Saturday, the line was giving him plenty of time and he had a nice pocket throw out of. The mistake was looking down the receiver the entire time and not scanning the field. We see it happen all the time in football, a QB looking at his target the entire route and when he does, it draws the defenders to the ball.

They had a one sack and it was the drive before the interception.

 

[keepngoal]

EIU did not record a sack on Saturday, the line was giving him plenty of time and he had a nice pocket throw out of. The mistake was looking down the receiver the entire time and not scanning the field. We see it happen all the time in football, a QB looking at his target the entire route and when he does, it draws the defenders to the ball.

do watch the games and look over stat lines before your horrible takes? Trying to figure out how bad you are at this.

 

[ClubCy]

do watch the games and look over stat lines before your horrible takes? Trying to figure out how bad you are at this.

Nah, this guy thinks Campbell is going to read this and call him up for an analyst job.

 

[RustShack]

Nah, this guy thinks Campbell is going to read this and call him up for an analyst job.

“This guy is a genius for thinking we shouldn’t have had a false start”.

 

[flycy]

Is that for sure, because the announcers stated that he was changing something, maybe it was the blocking scheme. But the guy has started for the 2nd season, if he does not have the ability to check to a different play at the line, then something is going on with the coaching staff.
If you are right and the QB cannot change the play, then why on 3rd and two from the nine in the shadow of their end zone, not go on a quick count?

It is extremely rare that any college QB's audible on their own these days and has been for decades.

 

[twincyties]

He saw one play on the TV broadcast where he's pretty sure someone was open but Rocco threw a pick and because of that we were supposed to be running all-go's the entire game because everyone would have been wide open deep. Keep up.

Where did I say this? I simply said I noticed the same thing on the pick and otherwise played a really good game.

 

[VeloClone]

Quick slants especially are designed to throw quick to the #1 receiver.

Sometimes the other team just makes a good play. Just like we did on Porter's 1st INT.

What "he missed XYZ who was wide open" guys don't take into account is progression. Passing plays are designed with a progression. A QB can't effectively see the entire field all at the same time. A play's progression might be R slant, R out, R fly, L crossing. You never get to L crossing if one of the other routes is open and you deliver the ball.

On the interception play Rocco never got to the open route because he had already thrown the ball. Why did he throw it if the receiver wasn't open? Well look at the replay. Rocco threw that right around two massive humans who were locked up in front of him. The DL and OL in front of him made it so that Rocco didn't see the defender who was right in line with the the rusher and blocker. If he saw that defender he would have moved on in the progression. He even said postgame that he didn't see the defender on the interception. It is likely that the intercepting player couldn't see "Rocco staring down his receiver" either if that even happened, he was just making his way to a receiver who entered his coverage zone and first saw the ball as it was leaving Rocco's hand.

 

[Clonefan32]

Where did I say this? I simply said I noticed the same thing on the pick and otherwise played a really good game.

I was talking about someone else in this thread.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Exactly. People don't understand that a lot of plays are run to set up other plays for later in the game.

If that was their intention, they waited too long IMO but I know that most won't care what I think.

 

[Cyched]

I would subscribe to a @isufbcurt podcast where he smacks down dumb fan takes.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

Sorry I have caused so much confusion today, I guess coaching football for over 20 years has caused me to not watch the game, but analysis what is happening and why. Guilty as charged, again I am sorry. Yes, EIU recorded one sack during the game, instead of the zero that I said. Yes, every pass has a numbered receiver to throw it too. The QB is taught this is the primary, then look too this area, then a third area then to the check down. On the int Becht did not look past the primary receiver which caused the int, it was a mistake, lineman being in front of him make it a worst decision, because that tells me that he is throwing to a spot over the middle and not reading the field at all.
Mistakes happen, its part of the game, learn from then and go on, or dwell on them and never improve, Becht played like he learned from this mistake, hopefully we do not have to talk about it again.

Have a great day and Go Cyclones.

 

[VeloClone]

Sorry I have caused so much confusion today, I guess coaching football for over 20 years has caused me to not watch the game, but analysis what is happening and why. Guilty as charged, again I am sorry. Yes, EIU recorded one sack during the game, instead of the zero that I said. Yes, every pass has a numbered receiver to throw it too. The QB is taught this is the primary, then look too this area, then a third area then to the check down. On the int Becht did not look past the primary receiver which caused the int, it was a mistake, lineman being in front of him make it a worst decision, because that tells me that he is throwing to a spot over the middle and not reading the field at all.
Mistakes happen, its part of the game, learn from then and go on, or dwell on them and never improve, Becht played like he learned from this mistake, hopefully we do not have to talk about it again.

Have a great day and Go Cyclones.

If QBs only ever delivered the ball when there was absolutely no obstruction in their view they would be eating the football a lot. Linemen at this level are regularly 6'4"-6'7". There are going to be obstructed views regularly. Yes, they should see everything but often have to make a split second decision with only 80% of the information rather than 100%. Was it totally correct to make that throw? Probably not, but just because an interception was thrown doesn't mean he "stared down the receiver the whole time" - it can mean he missed a defender who was in a blind spot.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

If QBs only ever delivered the ball when there was absolutely no obstruction in their view they would be eating the football a lot. Linemen at this level are regularly 6'4"-6'7". There are going to be obstructed views regularly. Yes, they should see everything but often have to make a split second decision with only 80% of the information rather than 100%. Was it totally correct to make that throw? Probably not, but just because an interception was thrown doesn't mean he "stared down the receiver the whole time" - it can mean he missed a defender who was in a blind spot.

Watch the video and then tell me otherwise, he was looking at him the entire way, moving the linebackers over to that area. When the ball was picked, EIU had three players right there.

Poor read, poor mechanics and should not have thrown the ball, at this level and beyond the QB's are not looking over the lineman, but between them.

 

[VeloClone]

Watch the video and then tell me otherwise, he was looking at him the entire way, moving the linebackers over to that area. When the ball was picked, EIU had three players right there.

Poor read, poor mechanics and should not have thrown the ball, at this level and beyond the QB's are not looking over the lineman, but between them.

If you are reading between the linemen then by definition there is going to be blind spots where the linemen are. That was the point. You aren't going to see the whole field.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

If you are reading between the linemen then by definition there is going to be blind spots where the linemen are. That was the point. You aren't going to see the whole field.

Watch the video and then come back and tell us all he was not staring at the receiver the entire way. The lineman move, you are looking between them, not over them. If he could not see the receiver that is worse, because he trying to throw to a spot after watching him the entire way. It was a mistake, they happen, we do not have to come on here and make excuses for Becht, he knows what he did wrong and didn't repeat it.

 

[JP4CY]

We won. Our team didn't give up. Our coach had faith in our players.

JFC people.