Advice for quitting drinking for a month

Cfinnerty16

Visual Analytics Czar
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Jul 26, 2021
2,251
4,678
113
West Des Moines
Diarrhea is a side effect from alcohol withdrawal, I wouldn’t have predicted it based on your description of 2 drinks per night but it’s not unusual. Out of curiosity what exactly were the “2 drinks per night”?
I would have a seltzer and then a beer, both at 5% abv or lower.
On weekends I might swap out that beer with a pint of a beer around 5.5% abv.
So weekends would be around 2.5-3 standard drinks per night.
 

FriendlySpartan

Well-Known Member
Jul 26, 2021
9,753
10,200
113
38
I would have a seltzer and then a beer, both at 5% abv or lower.
On weekends I might swap out that beer with a pint of a beer around 5.5% abv.
So weekends would be around 2.5-3 standard drinks per night.
Ok yeah that’s what I was thinking/hoping. I’ve just had people say they have had two drinks and it’s been two very heavy pours of scotch or something.

Not an unusual side effect, up your fluid intake if it’s really bad, add in some fluids with electrolytes as well. If it constantly persists for several days reach out to your PCP. You can also try an over the counter drug that contains Loperamide (Imodium AD is common) or just let it run its course.
 
  • Friendly
Reactions: Cfinnerty16

CyCrazy

Well-Known Member
Dec 17, 2008
27,074
15,314
113
Ames
Been there and still going through it. I take Diazapam to curb the urges, it works well. I tried the drug that makes you sick and it did nothing to me. I now do gummies, they take the edge off perfectly. Delta 9 is fine but not as good as the real deal. There is a place in downtown dm that has good stuff, but I usually just get the real deal from my brother in law. He gets it shipped in from Arizona.
 

madguy30

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Nov 15, 2011
57,420
55,342
113
Please consider the combination of these facts:

1. Many places of employment test for THC
2. Driving with ANY detectable amounts of THC and/or its metabolites are considered a DUI in many states including Iowa.
3. THC and especially its metabolites stay in one’s body for a very long time, measured in days and weeks.

The above is why any claim of THC being a “safer” choice than alcohol is extremely misleading and dangerous, even if we ignore potential health risks. Advice otherwise could be putting individuals at risk of job loss and serious legal consequences.

Aside from like a job with machinery operation who still tests and is it regularly scheduled?
 

CyclonePigskin

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Dec 28, 2010
276
342
63
DSM
Through my youth at home, my father kept bottles in a closet at work and would have a “Saluki” late afternoon after most everyone had left. Then he would often attend dinner meetings that carried over into drinking sessions, often not getting home until 8:30 or 9:00 p.m. He attempted to control my mom’s drinking by putting marks on the bottle of booze in the kitchen cabinet, and warning her about alcoholism in her family. He kept the bigger supply in a locked basement bar/closet. As a kid, I had no idea how impactful his/their drinking was on our family life and me. I just knew that things were often not on an even keel.

As a young adult, I maintained the family tradition, beginning with a celebratory case of some beer at the football field with hs athlete friends the first warm weekend after senior year basketball season. Then I bartended through my years at ISU and continued to drink heavily for a couple of decades after, subsequently became a bing drinker for almost 20 more years. During college I once crashed in the early evening in the basement storeroom on a pallet of broken down cardboard boxes in the bar where I worked, then woke up in time for a nightcap before driving home. Another time while driving home to the farmhouse where I was livingI leaned against a poorly latched driver side door in the old pick up I was driving and fell out. I landed on my upper back, sprung up feeling immediately sober with the adrenaline, and reacquired the pick up, which had gone perpendicular to the road and ran down through a shallow ditch only to stall on a grassy patch. Luckily there was no fence. If I believed in angels, I would say I have benefited from having a good one on my shoulder at times when I needed all the grace I could receive.

Currently I have a dusty home bar filled with only top shelf liquors and ample stores of wine kept in built-in EuroCave refrigerators. However, I seldom pour/mix a drink, and although we open a bottle or two of wine a week, more often than not I pour the last part of the bottle down the drain after too many days kept in the refrigerator.

I attribute my remaining above ground and improved drinking/drugging habits to a solid marriage of over 30 years to a strong, compassionate, loving, empathetic and patient woman who only drinks in moderation. I’m very aware of my (probably genetic) disposition to drink/drug excessively, but by this late date, I seem to have it under control (with occasional relapses related to eunnui, anxiety or bouts of depression). A brother died a few years ago, too early, significantly IMO as a consequence of lifelong heavy alcohol use. Another sibling quit cold turkey decades ago and seems to be living a healthy and productive life.

I tell this tale to relate that there is hope for recovery, sobriety or a close anpproximation and a good life, even for the most incorrigible among us. Go Cyclones!
 

CloniesForLife

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Apr 22, 2015
15,617
21,027
113
How do these NA beers taste? The last one I had decades ago tasted downright funky, but that might be from sitting on the shelf for way too long.

H
I've had a few I've enjoyed and a few have been pretty bad. Some local breweries around here have some pretty good ones
 

herbicide

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 23, 2006
11,305
2,832
113
Ankeny, IA
This is correct but the officer would have to have a reason to arrest you and submit you to a blood or urine test. There is no car side test like a breathalyzer. For this reason unless you are acting impaired or showing active signs this is incredibly unlikely to happen. Not impossible but incredibly unlikely.
As in if you are in a wreck. Your fault or not. And they can often issue a warrant for a blood test as a result. If that blood test comes back positive for something you took 4 days ago, you’re going to be charged whether or no you are actually impaired. No matter how you slice or condition the issue, it is a real risk that has real consequences.

Forgive me if I am trying to show transparency here to the readers.
 

herbicide

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 23, 2006
11,305
2,832
113
Ankeny, IA
How would section C be handled if the person was issued a medical card to use cannabis in the State of Iowa, by the State of Iowa?

Cannabis in blood and urine does not have a direct correlation to impairment. It would be nice if there was an instant test for impairment via cannabis like there is alcohol, but that technology isn't quite here and widely distributed...yet. As soon as a system like that is in place, a statute like "C" is going to need to be updated or it will likely get upended by a court.

Also, "controlled substance" sounds pretty vague. There are thousands of drugs that are "controlled." If any of them show up in a blood test, that means a prosecutor could file charges? Even with no other evidence of impairment?
Does not matter if prescribed or not. Same goes with any applicable prescription meds (opiates for example)
 

herbicide

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 23, 2006
11,305
2,832
113
Ankeny, IA
Aside from like a job with machinery operation who still tests and is it regularly scheduled?
Folk in the transportation business whether for driving roles or not being one, same sort of deal for industrial jobs. I’m in sales and am subject to random testing, and have been for my last 4 jobs spanning 20 plus years. None involved heavy equipment.
 

TrailCy

Well-Known Member
Mar 3, 2021
501
875
93
Please consider the combination of these facts:

1. Many places of employment test for THC
2. Driving with ANY detectable amounts of THC and/or its metabolites are considered a DUI in many states including Iowa.
3. THC and especially its metabolites stay in one’s body for a very long time, measured in days and weeks.

The above is why any claim of THC being a “safer” choice than alcohol is extremely misleading and dangerous, even if we ignore potential health risks. Advice otherwise could be putting individuals at risk of job loss and serious legal consequences.

Or you can move to Minnesota which just banned the testing of THC for any job except safety workers.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FriendlySpartan

Gorm

With any luck we will be there by Tuesday.
Jul 6, 2010
5,848
2,727
113
Cedar Rapids, IA
Does not matter if prescribed or not. Same goes with any applicable prescription meds (opiates for example)

Cool. You seem to have all the answers to these questions. Must come with the "reefer madness" you are suffering from.

I can't wait for some prosecutor to file charges because they found traces of a hemorrhoid medication on someone who was driving. After all, as long as its "controlled" its fair game right? No chances for abuse on that law.
 

herbicide

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 23, 2006
11,305
2,832
113
Ankeny, IA
Cool. You seem to have all the answers to these questions. Must come with the "reefer madness" you are suffering from.

I can't wait for some prosecutor to file charges because they found traces of a hemorrhoid medication on someone who was driving. After all, as long as its "controlled" its fair game right? No chances for abuse on that law.
THC is one of those specific drugs tested and disallowed. hemorrhoid cream is not…I don’t make the rules I just know what they are, and could care less if anyone uses.

Just don’t go expecting the things I’ve stated to be untrue if you ever find yourself in that situation.

Unfortunately I know of a few that have found these laws out the hard way.
 

Gorm

With any luck we will be there by Tuesday.
Jul 6, 2010
5,848
2,727
113
Cedar Rapids, IA
THC is one of those specific drugs tested and disallowed. hemorrhoid cream is not…I don’t make the rules I just know what they are, and could care less if anyone uses.
And it says that in that law...where?

It doesn't say "Controlled substance list", it says "Controlled substance." That is incredibly, and I'm sure intentionally, vague. If you need a prescription for any medication, that medication is a "controlled substance".

I wouldn't put it past a prosecutor to try and press charges under that law either. I'm reminded of the time a DA tried to get a DUI on an individual because of "excessive caffeine."

 

herbicide

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 23, 2006
11,305
2,832
113
Ankeny, IA

And it says that in that law...where?

It doesn't say "Controlled substance list", it says "Controlled substance." That is incredibly, and I'm sure intentionally, vague. If you need a prescription for any medication, that medication is a "controlled substance".

I wouldn't put it past a prosecutor to try and press charges under that law either. I'm reminded of the time a DA tried to get a DUI on an individual because of "excessive caffeine."

 

Saul_T

Well-Known Member
Nov 16, 2020
2,962
4,967
113
I like to replace beers with Liquid Death. I'm not a huge carbonated water fan, let alone flavored carbonated water, but I feel like Liquid Death has great flavors and the carbonation is similar to that of most beers. Also, the delivery system of a tallboy can helps.

-Signed
Bert Kreischer
 

herbicide

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 23, 2006
11,305
2,832
113
Ankeny, IA

This is Iowa's definition of what is a "controlled substance."

If I'm reading it correctly, an Iowa Medical patient would be exempt from a DUI if it was a proper medication unless there is other evidence proving intoxication.
Not true per my associated experience and legal understanding; an example being certain prescription medications with the ‘do not drive or operate’ disclaimers.

I’m not arguing the law is right or wrong here, just what it currently is.
 

Latest posts

Help Support Us

Become a patron