After much thought, my best-case, realistic realignment scenario.

clonedude

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Yes, it is depressing. I am depressed.
But I bring scenarios, not because I disagree with your point about the B10 and P12, but because wishing it happens does not make it happen. There is zero doubt our first desire should be the B10. What if they do not want us? Other than time zone, what do we provide the P12? Do we generate more $ than we cost? I do not know. I just think JP better have plans A, B, C and D. At the right time I trust he will.

Bring up all the scenarios you want, but if they don’t involve ISU to the B1G or part of the PAC, then ISU athletics as we know it is done for.

JP would have to make huge cuts….including cutting many sports. We could no longer make any improvements to facilities, etc. We might have to beg the state for funding again, which probably won’t happen.

We’d be in bad shape.
 
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We have an interesting experiment going on...one media company is gradually taking over college FB. They fully "own" (or will in a couple of years) two of the P5 conferences for number of years, a share in 3 other P5 conferences, most of the bowls, and the CFB playoff. It will basically be up to the Big Ten and the Pac-12 to determine if they like the way things are working out. Do they want a media company to be in full control that will sabotage one of its partners to be in control of everything? SEC + ACC will have 32 teams. Big-Ten + Pac-12 + Big 8 have 34.

An interesting website that gives a summary of who holds what sports media rights (pro and college)
 

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Bring up all the scenarios you want, but if they don’t involve ISU to the B1G or part of the PAC, then ISU athletics as we know it is done for.

JP would have to make huge cuts….including cutting many sports. We could no longer make any improvements to facilities, etc. We might have to beg the state for funding again, which probably won’t happen.

We’d be in bad shape.
This is my fear as well. It could end up being a crushing blow.
 

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We have an interesting experiment going on...one media company is gradually taking over college FB. They fully "own" (or will in a couple of years) two of the P5 conferences for number of years, a share in 3 other P5 conferences, most of the bowls, and the CFB playoff. It will basically be up to the Big Ten and the Pac-12 to determine if they like the way things are working out. Do they want a media company to be in full control that will sabotage one of its partners to be in control of everything? SEC + ACC will have 32 teams. Big-Ten + Pac-12 + Big 8 have 34.

An interesting website that gives a summary of who holds what sports media rights (pro and college)
Good read. Thanks for posting. While CBS passed on paying premium for the $EC, I could see them emerging as a player for rights. No offense to the Mountain West, but K State/Iowa State, TCU/Texas Tech Baylor / Oklahoma State matchups are better content for CBS Sports Network than a lot of the matchups that currently air. They could program some damn good football using CBS/CBS SN the same way ABC/ESPN does now.
 

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We have an interesting experiment going on...one media company is gradually taking over college FB. They fully "own" (or will in a couple of years) two of the P5 conferences for number of years, a share in 3 other P5 conferences, most of the bowls, and the CFB playoff. It will basically be up to the Big Ten and the Pac-12 to determine if they like the way things are working out. Do they want a media company to be in full control that will sabotage one of its partners to be in control of everything? SEC + ACC will have 32 teams. Big-Ten + Pac-12 + Big 8 have 34.

An interesting website that gives a summary of who holds what sports media rights (pro and college)
A B1G +Pac 12 + Big 8 + Fox Sports alliance is our best hope.
 

CNECloneFan

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Good read. Thanks for posting. While CBS passed on paying premium for the $EC, I could see them emerging as a player for rights. No offense to the Mountain West, but K State/Iowa State, TCU/Texas Tech Baylor / Oklahoma State matchups are better content for CBS Sports Network than a lot of the matchups that currently air. They could program some damn good football using CBS/CBS SN the same way ABC/ESPN does now.
I wonder if CBS would have bid higher for SEC games if they had known (like ESPN did) that Texas and Oklahoma were jumping ship?
 
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So listening to KXNO today and a caller I thought had a really good idea...

Big 8 + add Cinnci, Memphis, BYU and San Diego st for all sports

For basketball those 12 teams + Witchita State and Creighton for bball only..

12 team fball and 14 team bball conf.

This would be an unreal bball conf and easily best bball conf and it wouldn't be close..


It would be must watch TV bball conf and could certainly help increase revenue lost on fball side
Other than BYU I like it.
 
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I wonder if CBS would have bid higher for SEC games if they had known (like ESPN did) that Texas and Oklahoma were jumping ship?
Not sure. From what I read they weren’t even close to what ESPN was willing to bid. They didn’t try very hard to keep it. Almost feels like they thought $EC was overvalued.
 

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So listening to KXNO today and a caller I thought had a really good idea...

Big 8 + add Cinnci, Memphis, BYU and San Diego st for all sports

For basketball those 12 teams + Witchita State and Creighton for bball only..

12 team fball and 14 team bball conf.

This would be an unreal bball conf and easily best bball conf and it wouldn't be close..


It would be must watch TV bball conf and could certainly help increase revenue lost on fball side
San Diego St. increases travel cost and will do no where near what Houston would do in tv ratings. UH vs All 4 other 4 Texahoma schools do nicely. SDDU doesn't move the needle versus anyone.
 

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Obviously this is the worst case scenario. But if it comes to adding BYU, Houston, Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF, USF… they’d probably have to come at a discount(which would still have to be more than they make now) for 5 years. Then hope that their fan base and viewership grows significantly. Hope for Iowa State to become a powerhouse like Nebraska in the 90’s. Hope the new conference can win some playoff games. Hope several long shots come together quickly and we keep P5 status.

Here’s to getting that B1G invite, or at least some type of PAC merger.
 

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I want the outcome that Matt Campbell wants. If it keeps him in Ames, I'm all in.
100 percent this. I am bummed to get relegated to AAC 2.0, but will increase my donation to keep Campbell. If I have to pay double for season tickets, I will.
 

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If the Big 12 stays at 8 teams a year or two it sets up some intriguing scheduling options. We would have 5 non-conf games instead of 3.
 

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Bring up all the scenarios you want, but if they don’t involve ISU to the B1G or part of the PAC, then ISU athletics as we know it is done for.

JP would have to make huge cuts….including cutting many sports. We could no longer make any improvements to facilities, etc. We might have to beg the state for funding again, which probably won’t happen.

We’d be in bad shape.
I agree. Hope YOU can make it happen.
I am certain Jamie will try.

Just like some do not like my scenarios, I think it is unwise to say - “give us a great outcome, or else.” Or else what? I will repeat myself - you better have plan A, B, C and D.

We actually totally agree on the best outcomes. Those are obvious.
 
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