Albert Gary - charges reduced

[rebecacy]

I thought the topic was who is responsible for felonies that occur on campus -- after someone said it did not matter where the felonies occurr -- it does matter as the results of on campus felonies are decided by the president not the football coach or the AD ------ except at Penn State of course.

 

[CyAg]

So now you are comparing mass murder to a prank? Completely ridiculous.

It is as over the top to compare it to VTech, as it is to call it a prank.

The only reason to call it a prank is it seek to minimize its seriousness vs the other exaggerates in the opposite direction.

 

[HiltonMagic23]

So is he going to face a suspension. He could really change the game when he is on the field. He's super talented

 

[clonestar12]

So...your suggesting that since it was on campus that some higher standard must be carried out? Prank is a prank regardless of where prank takes place. Steve Leath has more important things to do than to deal with pranks.

Story County does not think it was funny or a prank in any way shape or form. He is going to be a convicted felon that brandished a gun on unsuspecting students who were on central campus. Hopefully Mr Gary will be a former ISU student very soon when University policy kicks in.

 

[isuno1fan]

So is he going to face a suspension. He could really change the game when he is on the field. He's super talented

Doubtful...this will get deferred until after the season or nothing will come of it.

He will play this Fall.

 

[cuphues]

I thought the topic was who is responsible for felonies that occur on campus -- after someone said it did not matter where the felonies occurr -- it does matter as the results of on campus felonies are decided by the president not the football coach or the AD ------ except at Penn State of course.

Let me ask you a question. Do you really think this is truly similar to Vtech or Penn State? Wow.:wideeyed:

 

[CyAg]

Therin is the problem. The decision shoudl be made based on policy, as it would for every student, equally applied, not base on talent.

It it withing the area of CPR to make the decision, fine. Fans can feel one way or another, but so be it.

However, if the policy (which I do not claim to know) calls for something stronger, and it it is not applied as it woudl be to any other student, we should never, ever, criticize any other schools decisions on player eligibility and/or punishments.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

we should never, ever, criticize any other schools decisions on player eligibility and/or punishments.

No matter the outcome we shouldn't criticize anyway. We have just as many petty and/or serious arrests as other schools.

 

[cuphues]

Story County does not think it was funny or a prank in any way shape or form. He is going to be a convicted felon that brandished a gun on unsuspecting students who were on central campus. Hopefully Mr Gary will be a former ISU student very soon when University policy kicks in.

How do you know what Story county thinks? You don't know the contents of the plea. Premature to make any judgement.

 

[Spam]

From the Student Code of Conduct of ISU:

What should I do if I have also been charged criminally? Isn't this double jeopardy?
The ISU judicial process is separate from the criminal court proceedings. If you've already been to court for the alleged incident, then you have fulfilled your obligation to any violation of Iowa Law. You have not, however, met your obligation for Iowa State University policy. Even if the courts found you "not guilty" or determined there was not sufficient evidence to hear your case in court, you must still meet with an Office of Judicial Affairs staff member to resolve the matter with the university.

Will I be dismissed from ISU for this incident?
According to the Student Disciplinary Regulations, only cases determined to be major could result in a separation between you and the institution.

What types of sanctions can be imposed in my case?

There is a range of sanctions used by the Office of Judicial Affairs, from Disciplinary Reprimand to Expulsion from ISU. Many times, other educational sanctions may be imposed, such as educational referrals for an alcohol assessment or referral to the Academic Success Center. If damage to property is involved, restitution may be required as a part of the sanction plan. This list is not inclusive of all sanctions. Specific questions can be answered by calling our office at (515) 294-1021.

 

[rebecacy]

So is he going to face a suspension. He could really change the game when he is on the field. He's super talented

It depends on what happens at the court appearance later this month. If judgement is deferred and he gets probation he should be good to go as long as he abides by the terms of the probation. If judgement comes down with any jail time or a fine he will get suspended and it will not be the football coach or AD's decision on the length cuz he won't be a student at ISU.

 

[alarson]

If judgement comes down with any jail time or a fine he will get suspended and it will not be the football coach or AD's decision on the length cuz he won't be a student at ISU.

ISU doesnt just kick out any students that get jail time...

 

[Spam]

And I could not find a athletes code of conduct for ISU, but the Iowa one:

A student-athlete is determined to have committed Category I misconduct when:

The student-athlete is convicted of, does not contest (e.g., a guilty or nolo contendere plea), or receives a deferred judgment for a crime that is classified as a felony by the State of Iowa; or
The student-athlete is found by a court to have violated a court-imposed term of probation or other condition; or
The student-athlete is found by the Director of Athletics, in consultation with the Faculty Athletics Representative (FAR), to have violated a term of probation or other condition imposed by the Department of Athletics or a University official, and the conduct underlying the violation of probation or condition represents a substantial lack of compliance with the Student-Athlete Code of Conduct.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

ISU doesnt just kick out any students that get jail time...

Exactly. I had students in the classes I taught that served their jail time Friday evening-Monday morning and attended classes without issue.

Still think this will be a deferred judgement and probation situation.

 

[CyAg]

No matter the outcome we shouldn't criticize anyway. We have just as many petty and/or serious arrests as other schools.

Agreed

 

[rebecacy]

ISU doesnt just kick out any students that get jail time...

never said that ............. but felonies on campus are a different story -- nearly always get kicked out according to my source in the administration. In fact, an on-campus housing misdemeanor theft (for example) will get you a minumum of a semester. How one handles it is also important ............ admit wrongdoing and give a public apology and the admin is more likely to be forgiving.

 

[Stormin]

never said that ............. but felonies on campus are a different story -- nearly always get kicked out according to my source in the administration. In fact, an on-campus housing misdemeanor theft (for example) will get you a minumum of a semester. How one handles it is also important ............ admit wrongdoing and give a public apology and the admin is more likely to be forgiving.

Key word is nearly. So the policy is not absolute. Albert Gary cooperated with authorities and evidently has accepted responsibility so perhaps the administration is forgiving in this instance.

 

[Rabbuk]

never said that ............. but felonies on campus are a different story -- nearly always get kicked out according to my source in the administration. In fact, an on-campus housing misdemeanor theft (for example) will get you a minumum of a semester. How one handles it is also important ............ admit wrongdoing and give a public apology and the admin is more likely to be forgiving.

Athletes are held to the same standards as most students. Right....

 

[DesertClone1]

What could be more important to President Leath than doing all he can to ensure the best possible safety, security and peace-of-mind of his university's students as they walk through central campus??

Why do you keep repeating yourself? You're beating the dead horse to death again.

 

[Scott34]

The fact that Mr Gary is soon to be a convicted felon is proof enough. The POS needs to go.

Deferred judgement w/ probation is a possibility and therefore, he wouldn't be a felon unless he violated the terms of his probation.But hey pitchfork crowd, don't let the judicial system get in the way of a good ol' fashion burning at the stake.

+1. Love how people are so quick to judge when its not even through the whole process nor do people fully understand what the plea deal will include.