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Sorry folks but it was the defense that lost this game. The offense didn't run smooth but in spite of that they were still able to score enough points to win. The defense was a sieve. Players looked lost and confused. Drake shot 60% in the second half. Until this team sells all out on the D this team will be like Baylor, talented but not well coached.
The biggest problem on D was having Scotty guarding anyone that can dribble (as well as having Booker forgetting to play D, I counted 3 occasions).

Babb should have been on Rice all game.
 

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I'd rather have Allen, McGee, Sledge, Babb, Bubu, and Royce be PG over SC, maybe even Ejim and Ejim can't dribble.

I couldn't stand watching Scotty try to drive last year, and he's the exact same this year, only he tries (yes, tries, since he can't actually drive) more this year.
 

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The biggest problem on D was having Scotty guarding anyone that can dribble (as well as having Booker forgetting to play D, I counted 3 occasions).

Babb should have been on Rice all game.

I agree that Babb should have been on Rice. It was that damn switching. It confused the players all night and they got mixed up who they were suppose to guard.

Late in the game when we brought the game within 3 CFH called a time out and then the players broke the huddle confused about who they were guarding on Drake's inbound pass. Confused on what to do after a timeout at that point of the game?!
 

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So, the assessment seems to be, Diante was an asset last season but there were too few options to pull out a few of those close games. This season, there's a decent amount of talent but no true point guard.

Last season, ISU lost a half-dozen winnable games because there was so little depth — no cushion for foul trouble, couldn't run-and-gun because of fatigue. Ran out of gas with multiple-possession leads in the final 3 or 4 minutes.

Any team that isn't Final Four material is going to have some gaps. And this team could take a while to come together in real-game situations. That's fine.

But I can't stand the excuse-making. So this team has no true point guard. Find ways to win games like this, at the very least.
 

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Saying Christopherson shouldn't start is dumb. He doesn't look like a PG through two games and it might not work out with him there but give it some time. All the players are new and it is a new position for him. I'm not sold on him playing the point, but to say he shouldn't start is rediculous. Did you watch last season at all?
 

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Tavon must be really raw because given what I have seen the first 3 outings I would think we would about have to throw him in there and let him learn with his feet to the fire. I am especially surprised given the amount of recruiting attention he received. I thought he would be polished enough to come in and at least get some minutes.

yeah strange, our hot shot pg from NY can't get any minutes yet Drake's freshmen pg from Springfield, Ill played 22 minutes for Drake. How does that happen? How is that Fred thought this team could function with only shooting guards and no point guards. I know we call them combo guards, but come on, anyone with two eyes can clearly see that none of these guys have true point guard skills.
 

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SC is a 2 guard ONLY. Allen, McGee, Palo or Sledge should be bringing the ball up.

We don't have any flow at the 1,2,3 spot right now because of all the shuffling. I think this is the case of having too many players at 1 spot.

The biggest thing I am ticked about is the fact we didn't even press at all. Really?
The other thing is I am dissappointed with Booker. I thought he would give us some post moves and a down low presence. Couldn't be more wrong about that.
 
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Where are all those people that said they were happy DG wasn't on the team this year? I would absolutely love to hear what they'd have to say. I'm sure it'd be pure gold.

Right here.

I'm glad he's gone but it's not because I dislike him.
I'm intrigued by the fitting the pieces together part of the game.

You want him to stay here and play till he's 35?
 

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If you didnt realize pg would be a major issue the moment they announced sc was going to start at pg, you dont know basketball.
 

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Saying Christopherson shouldn't start is dumb. He doesn't look like a PG through two games and it might not work out with him there but give it some time. All the players are new and it is a new position for him. I'm not sold on him playing the point, but to say he shouldn't start is rediculous. Did you watch last season at all?
He couldn't dribble or defend last year either. Scotty needs to sit and come in when we need 3s and thats about it.
 

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He started on a team with zero other options last year.

There are more options this year.
 

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If you didnt realize pg would be a major issue the moment they announced sc was going to start at pg, you dont know basketball.

If you didn't realize point guard would be a major issue this year at this time last year, you're not paying attention and/or were to busy drinking the kool-aid..
 

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The only way SC should be starting is if Allen is playing the point. Otherwise I don't see it. He is more useful to this team coming off the bench as a 2.

We need him starting not coming off the bench. With that being said we need him playing on the wing and not bringing the ball up and setting up the O leave that for Allen.
 

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If you didn't realize point guard would be a major issue this year at this time last year, you're not paying attention and/or were to busy drinking the kool-aid..

Well yeah, but I think we were all hoping Mcgee, Allen, or Sledge could be at least adequate in that role. Mcgee and Sledge were both specifically recruited to play point guard, or at least that was what was said publicly. When word got out Scottie was playing point guard, we knew we were screwed at that position. Because we have all seen Scottie play (unlike the other 3) and we know that he is not even close to being a point guard.
 

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Well yeah, but I think we were all hoping Mcgee, Allen, or Sledge could be at least adequate in that role. Mcgee and Sledge were both specifically recruited to play point guard, or at least that was what was said publicly. When word got out Scottie was playing point guard, we knew we were screwed at that position. Because we have all seen Scottie play (unlike the other 3) and we know that he is not even close to being a point guard.

Yeah I agree. I dont get what the mentality to having Scotty play PG is? This is a pretty weak NC schedule, almost perfect to throw a PG out there with very little D1 experience and have him ready for Big 12 play. Not sure why CFH is not taking advantage of that.
 

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You can talk about PG play all you want but that is not the reason ISU lost the game. THe reasons ISU lost was: (1) defense, (2) horrible shooting night, (3) Drake played more inspired and more aggressive and ISU came out lazy.

The defense is partly on the coaching as well. I am not sure why they switched on every screen it created so many mismatches and easy buckets for Drake.

As far as PG play goes I really think McGee should get the start and then either start Allen or Christopherson at the 2 guard. I think playing PG is really hurting Scott's game and it is taking away his best attribute which is being a catch and shoot three point shooter. I am not sure it is good coaching to take away the strength of one of the best three-point shooters in the country.

That being said. It is only the second game of the year. Heck, Vanderbilt lost to Cleveland St. and they are a top 15 team. So, people should probably back away from the ledge.