Article on A&M/SEC Rumors, Big 12 future

[mt85]

I have no idea what the next Big 12 Network contract amount will be, and neither do you. I imagine it will be much lower now that the Texas deal has been signed, as the collective bargaining power of the rest of the Big 12 has been compromised.
Back to what I responded to: show me one direct quote, from any Texas office holder or university decision-maker, that alludes to this alleged Texas-Texas A&M rule about being in the same conference...

Just an FYI, regardless of the TV contract that gets signed, A & M, Texas and Oklahoma are guaranteed by the conference that they will receive a minimum of $20 million per year. Under the current SEC contract which lasts for many years into the future each school will receives $17 million per year. Texas TV deal is a separate revenue stream in addition to the $20 million.

 

[Tornado man]

Just an FYI, regardless of the TV contract that gets signed, A & M, Texas and Oklahoma are guaranteed by the conference that they will receive a minimum of $20 million per year. Under the current SEC contract which lasts for many years into the future each school will receives $17 million per year. Texas TV deal is a separate revenue stream in addition to the $20 million.

ESPN was/is the favorite for the new Big 12 TV deal. No way, after paying Texas $300 mil, will they ante up an SEC/Big Ten-type deal for the rest of the conference schools. The rest of us have already conceded a disproportionate share to Texas as a way of keeping them in the conference.
Texas A&M gets $9 mil year, they look at Texas getting $22 mil (and growing). That burns bridges.

 

[Palmer]

ESPN was/is the favorite for the new Big 12 TV deal. No way, after paying Texas $300 mil, will they ante up an SEC/Big Ten-type deal for the rest of the conference schools. The rest of us have already conceded a disproportionate share to Texas as a way of keeping them in the conference.
Texas A&M gets $9 mil year, they look at Texas getting $22 mil (and growing). That burns bridges.

Luck for us you have all the inside knowledge.


Oh wait.....you are the guy that believes Danny Mac poops gold bars.

 

[mt85]

ESPN was/is the favorite for the new Big 12 TV deal. No way, after paying Texas $300 mil, will they ante up an SEC/Big Ten-type deal for the rest of the conference schools. The rest of us have already conceded a disproportionate share to Texas as a way of keeping them in the conference.
Texas A&M gets $9 mil year, they look at Texas getting $22 mil (and growing). That burns bridges.

I have no idea what you are talking about with the $9 million and $22 million. Texas, A & M and Oklahoma are guaranteed to receive a minimum of $20 million per year from the Tier 1 and Tier 2 TV revenues. It really isn't that complicated.

The deal Texas signed is for Tier 3 and each school has the right to pursue their own revenue stream from Tier 3 sports.

 

[twojman]

Just an FYI, regardless of the TV contract that gets signed, A & M, Texas and Oklahoma are guaranteed by the conference that they will receive a minimum of $20 million per year. Under the current SEC contract which lasts for many years into the future each school will receives $17 million per year. Texas TV deal is a separate revenue stream in addition to the $20 million.

Yep, this is true. If the new TV deal does not give A&M and OU that amount, schools like ISU, Baylor & K-State have to pony up and pay that amount to those schools. I love this conference.

My guess is that if A&M joined the SEC they could rewrite their (SEC) contract. With a huge Texas market opening up there would be a lot more eyeballs going to the SEC. There would not be a $3 million revenue gap for A&M at that point.

 

[Wesley]

Re: A&M to SEC talk heating back up

For the millionth time, they've only sold their rights to 3rd tier football games and non-revenue sports. Their network is only guaranteed ONE football game a year and 8 basketball games. I don't think there would be much of a B12 deal without access to Texas football.

Those one fball and eight bball games are probably early season games before conference starts. It is like they sold the ten year bevo clone zone rights for $300M.

 

[mt85]

Yep, this is true. If the new TV deal does not give A&M and OU that amount, schools like ISU, Baylor & K-State have to pony up and pay that amount to those schools. I love this conference.

My guess is that if A&M joined the SEC they could rewrite their (SEC) contract. With a huge Texas market opening up there would be a lot more eyeballs going to the SEC. There would not be a $3 million revenue gap for A&M at that point.

Don't ignore that you are changing the denominator as well. The pie may get bigger, but so would the number of parties sharing it.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Re: A&M to SEC talk heating back up

Can we leave Texas out of a big XII network deal since they already sold their rights? Thats if a network were ever created? I know it would be more attractive with Texas, but who cares, Pretty muchtake what we can get.

Um, no. That woudl probably take away half of the money. They also didn't sell their rights.

The Longhorn network will not get choice over any new TV deal therefor the Longhorn network will NOT influence the new deal.

 

[trajanJ]

I hope A&M stays but looking at it through their eyes I understand leaving for the SEC if that offer would ever come. It would be the first time they would ever have a card in their hand that is greater than Texas has. They could sell high school players the chance to play in the SEC and stay at home. Every weekend those players would play in some of the best stadiums and environments in the country. The Big 12 only has a few stadiums that compare and they just lost one of them. It would be a huge selling point and one that would actually give them a real shot to compete for recruits against Texas.

 

[Wesley]

Re: A&M to SEC talk heating back up

Exactly. Mods need to delete this thread, or change the thread title, and then ban the OP. The article indicates nothing concrete about any A&M to SEC talks heating up, and the thread is clearly a trolling attempt by the OP.

The only link that I found was TT was dropping their Iowa Superbowl:
Texas Tech abruptly dumps TCU from ’11 slate | CollegeFootballTalk

 

[isuno1fan]

How has the collective bargaining power been compromised when the UT deal only consists of 3rd tier rights and there is legit competition to ESPN for 1st and 2nd tier rights? You have been told this numerous times but either are too dumb to understand it or just being a jerk. Probably a combination of both.[/QUOTE]

This x infinity.

 

[Al_4_State]

So in other words, A&M's only solution to the "Texas TV Network" is to join the SEC, take less money, and ultimately open up Texas recruits to the Floridas, and Alabamas of the SEC?

In other words, they're going to sabotage themselves just to spite their biggest rival? I hope you're not a businessman...

Well, if A&M fans were making this decision that's exactly what they do. They hate Texas more than they like themselves. They would perish in the SEC, but that's fine and dandy in their minds to get away from "Texas's shadow".

Good thing that the people who actually make these decisions aren't that stupid.

 

[Al_4_State]

I hope A&M stays but looking at it through their eyes I understand leaving for the SEC if that offer would ever come. It would be the first time they would ever have a card in their hand that is greater than Texas has. They could sell high school players the chance to play in the SEC and stay at home. Every weekend those players would play in some of the best stadiums and environments in the country. The Big 12 only has a few stadiums that compare and they just lost one of them. It would be a huge selling point and one that would actually give them a real shot to compete for recruits against Texas.

Also, SEC schools would be able to come in and poach recruits from the State of Texas much easier than they already do. A&M just got their *** kicked by the SEC in the bowl season too.

By going to the SEC, A&M makes it HARDER to recruit because now they compete against Texas and Oklahoma. By joining the SEC they compete against Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee, etc.

A&M would struggle to get above .500 in the SEC most years, and their recruiting would suffer big time down the stretch. It would be a death sentence for their program from a competitive stand point.

But hey, no more Texas.

 

[trajanJ]

Here's another article on it.
Texas A&M to SEC Rumors Start Again. Missouri, Kansas, and Kansas State to Big East? - Voodoo Five

 

[jbhtexas]

Here's another article on it.
Texas A&M to SEC Rumors Start Again. Missouri, Kansas, and Kansas State to Big East? - Voodoo Five

Great. An article that quotes the first article in this thread, which itself is a rehash of another article that says nothing about a rift among the Big 12 teams, or about talks between Big 12 teams an other conferences.

 

[Al_4_State]

Here's another article on it.
Texas A&M to SEC Rumors Start Again. Missouri, Kansas, and Kansas State to Big East? - Voodoo Five

I'm sure OU can't wait to scrap it's new network and significantly decrease their likelihood of playing in National championships.

 

[Palmer]

A couple of blogs in the internetz does not overcome the money to be made staying in the Big 12 vs going to the East.

 

[isuno1fan]

Let the ignorance end lord......please!

 

[weR138]

Here's another article on it.
Texas A&M to SEC Rumors Start Again. Missouri, Kansas, and Kansas State to Big East? - Voodoo Five

In what way is this anything more than some dudes fantasy? This isn't an article; it's a blog post. It should be taken just as seriously as any of my posts here.

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

Why has ISU all of a sudden been thrown out of these "talks" about the "New Big East?" There was a contingency plan put in place with the "forgotten five" in KC.