looks like Rondo backed up his talk tonight. Butler and Wade not so much.
As if Hoiberg didn't have enough to worry about.....
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I wouldn't say I'm more positive about the Bull's coach. Besides, two different situations and areas discussed. I'd actually say a strength of Prohm is holding players accountable and communicating. Do I like Prohm's defensive gains with the team? Yep. Do I like his offense? Nope. So, different phases of games discussed doesn't mean it's rating them as to overall success. Now... back to the Bulls discussion...I just think Fred will land on his feet, that's all. Certainly could be wrong, obviously.
Butler used to be the one part of this team I liked. Now that's even gone. NBA doesn't interest me in the least anymore.
He seems like a douchebag
He is, always has been, and always will be. I wouldn't want him anywhere close to my team. Total cancer.
It would be a little different if he was a legitimate superstar, but he's a B rate star. Dude needs an ego check
No doubt about that. Might even be generous. B rate stars don't even go 1-13 from field with 3p and 3to
The Bulls are dumpster fire right now and Fred has fallen into the same trap that Tim Floyd did where the Bulls front office promised things they could not deliver on. Anyone who follows the Bulls knew that adding Wade and Rondo was putting a square peg in a round hole in a Hoiberg system and it's proven to be just that. For as talented as Butler is, he has never embraced being a leader and it is showing this year. I feel sorry for Fred because the coach is always the scapegoat but if Paxson and Foreman want to save their jobs along with Fred's they gut this team at the trade deadline, tank the rest of the season for a lotto pick and hope they can rebuild on the fly. Easier said and done, the Bulls have struck out in free agency too many times in recent history and even trading away the trade assets they currently have won't net them more than late 1st rounders at best unless Butler goes which would require taking on a high priced player another team doesn't want.
It's easy to feel sorry for Fred but this is the price he will pay for signing a deal with the devil because the grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence. His tenure with the Bulls is going to end on a sour note whether it be this season or next because I don't see a scenario where the Bulls make the right moves to turn this thing around. What sucks as an ISU fan is that we knew if Fred stayed he had all the resources to build a powerhouse program and cement his legacy but instead he chased the NBA dream that will eventually backfire on him and we'll eventually see him take another college job elsewhere.
The bad part is if Fred gets fired it really puts Coach Prohm in a bad spot because any time we struggle people will be calling to fire him for Fred. I think Steve has done a great job so far and laid a solid foundation for future success with how he has run his program. We all know next season will likely be a rebuilding year with 7 seniors on this year's team but he has more than proven he can compete in recruiting so far and deserves a chance to coach a team of guys he recruited.
It's easy to feel sorry for Fred but this is the price he will pay for signing a deal with the devil because the grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence. His tenure with the Bulls is going to end on a sour note whether it be this season or next because I don't see a scenario where the Bulls make the right moves to turn this thing around. What sucks as an ISU fan is that we knew if Fred stayed he had all the resources to build a powerhouse program and cement his legacy but instead he chased the NBA dream that will eventually backfire on him and we'll eventually see him take another college job elsewhere.
The bad part is if Fred gets fired it really puts Coach Prohm in a bad spot because any time we struggle people will be calling to fire him for Fred. I think Steve has done a great job so far and laid a solid foundation for future success with how he has run his program. We all know next season will likely be a rebuilding year with 7 seniors on this year's team but he has more than proven he can compete in recruiting so far and deserves a chance to coach a team of guys he recruited.
If/when Hoiberg is let go by the Bulls, I wonder how likely it is that he will coach college ball. Is he more likely to take a front office position in the NBA? If he comes back to the college game, it sure would be strange to see him coach another team.
This whole thing is a dumpster fire. I remember folks saying how much he hated recruiting. I remember thinking "doesn't a coach have to 'recruit' in the NBA too, but instead of kids, elite and egotistical "professionals", not only on the court but everywhere else.
These "pros" are unbelievable babies. Coaching the pro game takes a certain personality, and I honestly don't think Fred possesses it. The only way it will work for him is if he is given some kind of deal where he has some front office control, and that isn't happening in Chicago. He HAS to get out of that organization. It's not just Wade. It's not just Butler. It's not just Rondo. It's that damn organization, starting with Jerry Reinsdorf.
These "pros" are unbelievable babies. Coaching the pro game takes a certain personality, and I honestly don't think Fred possesses it. The only way it will work for him is if he is given some kind of deal where he has some front office control, and that isn't happening in Chicago. He HAS to get out of that organization. It's not just Wade. It's not just Butler. It's not just Rondo. It's that damn organization, starting with Jerry Reinsdorf.
The people who do or would do the bolded are morons. I like Fred, but I'm not convinced I should. It's not like I "know" him. Prohm is our coach. Is he prefect? Hell no. Nobody is. I do think he's a good coach who is still learning his craft. He's passionate about it too. Fred had passion, but not enough to sustain long term success. He developed a formula that "worked", and he found Georges Niang. His formula has since been copied by others, and is no longer the boon it once was. With just 3 kids, Prohm had put together a class with more long term potential than any class Fred brought in.
For **** sake...I'm rambling. Prohm is the man. Through thick and thin. Get on the bus or get the hell off, cause Fred isn't coming back, and I'm convinced that is better for this program, long term. Someone just needs to tell Prohm to stop waving his arms trying to get the crowd involved
wonder what Bulls fans would think if this happens.
http://sportsmockery.com/2017/01/bulls-iowa-state-monte-morris-2017-nba-draft/2/
http://sportsmockery.com/2017/01/bulls-iowa-state-monte-morris-2017-nba-draft/2/
He is an all-star selection who's won a lot of games for them and is noted for his constant work ethic. Now, I realize there are plenty of other intangibles besides that.....but where is your opinion coming from? Just curious is all. Have no prior knowledge on Butler or opinion as to his fit with the team.
It's clear on multiple occasions that he has an ego issue and an attitude issue as well. I know a lot of stars do, but his issues are just constant. Always whining about someone else and not himself.
