BREAKING: Prohm notches first commitment

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Maybe it is just me, but honestly, this kid is better than what I thought ISU might be able to get this late in the game. It would have been great to have Williams, but Ernst will have to do, plus I doubt Prohm and crew are done yet. There is just not a lot to pick from this late.......you are not going to land some 4 or 5 star guy this late unless something falls through at the other school like it did for NN. Relax......ISU did not need much for next year.

For those of you who are criticizing this pickup before you have even seen him play......show us how smart you are and go to one of the many transfer lists out there and tell us who you would rather ISU had gotten that would have been available immediately. Put yourself in the position of the coach.....we'll wait for your lists.
 
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We may have lost that pull when Fred left. Kids may not want to ride the bench if they are any good. We will know in a couple of years if we were the destination in ames or if it was a Fred pull.

Fred had more HS kids leave bc they couldn't get on the floor than he had stick around. None were capable of competing for minutes, let alone push the starters. The silver lining with this kid is that he (I assume) expects to redshirt and is aware he's not going to be seeing the floor until 16/17 regardless.
 

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Welcome Mr. Ernst, looking forward to seeing you play, spelling our all-american front line players, especially if we need to protect them from foul trouble and keep them on the floor late in the game. Also, just want to mention the opportunity you have to "up" your game, practicing daily against Georges and Jameel, quite an opportunity for you to improve and contribute to the future ISU program.
 

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Color me skeptical. Hopefully it works out but he is clearly the lowest recruited guy we have gotten in years.

Doesn't prevent him from being a good player for us of course.

I'd have preferred any transfer or a JUCO.

It seems like a 4 year scholly commitment to have a practice body, which Prohm was talking about a lot.
I have to agree. With TJ being the front man, this seems like a player he would have recruited during the GMAC years i.e. Clayton Vette, Marcus Brister.
 

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Fred never set out to miss on all his HS prospects but that's what the result was. He said numerous times that he wanted to build a foundation with high school kids and fill in with jucos and transfers.

You can lol all you want, but our whale hunting strategy got us into a situation where we had to re-recruit an entirely new roster every two years because we landed exactly ZERO whales. That's unsustainable, especially now that transfer recruiting is far more competitive.

Fred took Edozie, the Greek, and KJ Bluford. Those guys are all stretches just like this is.

Not to mention Okoro, Tavon Sledge, Demarcus Phillips, Percy Gibson. People act like Fred never recruited any suspect players.

This isn't the 1990's where a bad player sits on the bench for 4 years. If he can't get playing time, then he will transfer. If he is good enough to get playing time, then he's better than whatever other players we have, how is that a bad thing?

We needed another big guy especially with the Greek still up in the air. What other options are out there at this point?

He looks like a fairly athletic 6'8 guy who has a pretty good looking jump shot. Sounds like a good gamble this late in the summer to me.
 

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Not to mention Okoro, Tavon Sledge, Demarcus Phillips, Percy Gibson. People act like Fred never recruited any suspect players.

This isn't the 1990's where a bad player sits on the bench for 4 years. If he can't get playing time, then he will transfer. If he is good enough to get playing time, then he's better than whatever other players we have, how is that a bad thing?

We needed another big guy especially with the Greek still up in the air. What other options are out there at this point?

He looks like a fairly athletic 6'8 guy who has a pretty good looking jump shot. Sounds like a good gamble this late in the summer to me.

1. Phillips was a McD guy
2. All of those guys were way, way more highly rated than this kid and all had better offers.
3. Hoiberg recruited all of those guys at the very beginning of his stint at ISU, when ISU had little national clout. We have far more now.

You can't just look back in hindsight and compare apples to oranges.

You're looking back and judging good prospects who didn't work out and justifying signing a pretty average P5 prospect.

Of course, no ratings or prior events matter for a kids career, but highly rated kids pan out more than lowly rated ones and vice versa, it's a fact.
 

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I am pumped about this signing. Anyone that thinks this is anything but good is crazy. Also thinking that this will be the only type of players that the new coaching staff will go after is crazy. You can't teach size. He looks to be a true 6'8" and that is something ISU needs in the next couple of years. He looks pretty athletic. Even if there isn't much of a chance of him playing for 2-3 years, it is a lot better than anyone else they could have signed. it isn't like the coaching staff is going to sign 8 kids next year anyways. That means his scholarship would go unused for probably 2 years. When you break it down it is either take a chance on a kid like this or waste a scholarship for 2 years...That equals a big win in my book
 

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1. Phillips was a McD guy
2. All of those guys were way, way more highly rated than this kid and all had better offers.
3. Hoiberg recruited all of those guys at the very beginning of his stint at ISU, when ISU had little national clout. We have far more now.

You can't just look back in hindsight and compare apples to oranges.

You're looking back and judging good prospects who didn't work out and justifying signing a pretty average P5 prospect.

Of course, no ratings or prior events matter for a kids career, but highly rated kids pan out more than lowly rated ones and vice versa, it's a fact.

Ernst is as much a Fred recruit as he is Prohm's imo.
 

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Ladies and gentlemen, this is a no-lose situation with the scholly situation and the time of year it is. Even if he's a complete bust it won't matter. Maybe he develops and contributes.

Agree! It's a good thing! It gives us a very capable practice player if nothing else. Something that we desperately needed.
 

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Not excited at all with this commit. Would rather have had the scholarship banked for next season!

If we could sign 7 or however many top 100 players next year then I would see your point, but that's not happening. We need a body, and he's one. If he works out, then scholarship was worth it. If he doesn't, then he would be gone by the time we need the scholarship anyways as we wouldn't keep him four years in that scenario.

But you can't have all of your scholarships be starters. You have to have role players and developmental players.
 

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Drop the MM/MG arguments. All posts on this will be deleted and infractions discussed moving forward. I'd actually like to discuss the recruit, you know, the one the thread is about. Take all the other stuff to instate rivals.
 

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According to the Iowa Preps guy, this kid was somewhat becoming a hot commodity here as of lately with interest from Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota and Texas. Granted, it is late in the game for everyone and I've yet to hear of an offer, but it is something.



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