Briles Out

[fsanford]

You realize there's over 100 players on a football team, right? Baylor would still be able to easily field a team. Wouldn't be nearly as good, but could still easily field a team. Stop posting ridiculous things.

Wow, 100 huh? I was thinking more like 85 but with walk ons probably 100
SEC teams more like 125 I think



The NCAA managed to prevent Baylor from playing all of its non conference games one year even though they could have fielded a team

Duke is full of kids that did play La Crosse in high school, they could have fielded a team. Would have sucked but they could have fielded a team.

To think this is about a lack of players is just being naive..

Its not about players, its about the fact its football and the school would not have the balls to forfeit a game or 2 to send a message to players as well

 

[Cycsk]

Full and lengthy release: http://www.baylor.edu/mediacommunications/news.php?action=story&story=170207

Surprised that no one has cited this statement below from the report:

“We were horrified by the extent of these acts of sexual violence on our campus. This investigation revealed the University's mishandling of reports in what should have been a supportive, responsive and caring environment for students,â€￾ said Richard Willis, chair of the Baylor Board of Regents.

 

[dualthreat]

Briles out
Strong out soon
Snyder out soon

Coach Campbell, are you ready to climb us up the big 12 ladder?

 

[NetflixAndClone]

I don't think they are abandoning the university because they did the right thing. I think they are abandoning the university because of what they did in the first place. The current fallout is just proving the allegations for them.

No if you read Baylor fans they are pretty much acting like those girls were making it up to get attention again Baylor fans is just a small percentage of their fan base and shouldn't be taken for their whole fan base. They are pretty sick over there though.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Wow, 100 huh? I was thinking more like 85 but with walk ons probably 100
SEC teams more like 125 I think



The NCAA managed to prevent Baylor from playing all of its non conference games one year even though they could have fielded a team

Duke is full of kids that did play La Crosse in high school, they could have fielded a team. Would have sucked but they could have fielded a team.

To think this is about a lack of players is just being naive..

Its not about players, its about the fact its football and the school would not have the balls to forfeit a game or 2 to send a message to players as well

Forfeit a game or two? This isn't the suspension of a player. It's a program, not a person. The coach has been fired. Any other penalties you would see would be something like the loss of scholarships.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

No if you read Baylor fans they are pretty much acting like those girls were making it up to get attention again Baylor fans is just a small percentage of their fan base and shouldn't be taken for their whole fan base. They are pretty sick over there though.

Yeah, I won't judge the fan base dependent solely on those few fans either. Every fan base would have those occasional posters. Hell, we had one right in this thread saying he'd be ok with JP hiring Briles knowing everything that he did. You can't let the few idiots stand for your entire base.

 

[SNEDDS3]

 

[fsanford]

Forfeit a game or two? This isn't the suspension of a player. It's a program, not a person. The coach has been fired. Any other penalties you would see would be something like the loss of scholarships.

Why not follow the Baylor basketball model and not play the non conference games?
And yes I know the NCAA got involved with hoops.

Baylor had Dave Bliss hiding all kinds of things, Art Briles did the same what is the difference other than the sports they coach?. Both show all kinds of institutional control issues.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Why not follow the Baylor basketball model and not play the non conference games?
And yes I know the NCAA got involved with hoops.

Baylor had Dave Bliss hiding all kinds of things, Art Briles did the same what is the difference other than the sports they coach?. Both show all kinds of institutional control issues.

Different sport, different decade, different crimes, different ncaa, would you like me to go on?

 

[CycloneErik]

Different sport, different decade, different crimes, different ncaa, would you like me to go on?

I've got time. Write a manifesto.

 

[fsanford]

Different sport, different decade, different crimes, different ncaa, would you like me to go on?

Nope your first 2 words support my claim, its football, it is above all.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Nope your first 2 words support my claim, its football, it is above all.

Please tell me what forfeiting two games would accomplish? What great wrongs would be righted because two football games were forfeited? If Baylor forfeits two meaningless football games, does that magically turn back time so the assaults didn't happen? If Baylor forfeits two meaningless football games, does that exonerate Briles of everything and allow him to stay on as coach? If Baylor forfeits two meaningless football games, does that allow RGIII to come back and play for one more year?

Your point is stupid. The people responsible for the crimes are being punished to the fullest extent the BoR can do so. Hopefully the law will do more. But your argument to forfeit two meaningless football games is a stupid ******* argument that does nothing but pay lip service while at the same time EVERYONE knows it only pays lip service.

 

[ribsnwhiskey]

Please tell me what forfeiting two games would accomplish? What great wrongs would be righted because two football games were forfeited? If Baylor forfeits two meaningless football games, does that magically turn back time so the assaults didn't happen? If Baylor forfeits two meaningless football games, does that exonerate Briles of everything and allow him to stay on as coach? If Baylor forfeits two meaningless football games, does that allow RGIII to come back and play for one more year?

Your point is stupid. The people responsible for the crimes are being punished to the fullest extent the BoR can do so. Hopefully the law will do more. But your argument to forfeit two meaningless football games is a stupid ******* argument that does nothing but pay lip service while at the same time EVERYONE knows it only pays lip service.

Whoa.

 

[fsanford]

Please tell me what forfeiting two games would accomplish? What great wrongs would be righted because two football games were forfeited? If Baylor forfeits two meaningless football games, does that magically turn back time so the assaults didn't happen? If Baylor forfeits two meaningless football games, does that exonerate Briles of everything and allow him to stay on as coach? If Baylor forfeits two meaningless football games, does that allow RGIII to come back and play for one more year?

Your point is stupid. The people responsible for the crimes are being punished to the fullest extent the BoR can do so. Hopefully the law will do more. But your argument to forfeit two meaningless football games is a stupid ******* argument that does nothing but pay lip service while at the same time EVERYONE knows it only pays lip service.

Which is a bigger story coach getting fired or a P5 football school not being able to participate in games this fall? This Briles thing will be yesterdays news by mid June if not sooner

It would be an unprecedented event, and it makes the entire university endure punitive damages. This thing is beyond Briles, happy he is gone, but many of the others who were also aware of the problems get to stay.

Guess you do not realize the impact of what message it would send when a FOOTBALL program would take this step. It never will, because it is football, the cash cow, and no school would ever undertake it

 

[ISU_Clone_28]

"Jack and DP

Baylor fan

(3417 points)

"Baylor took the steps that most programs wouldn't take. Baylor didn't let it go on for years like Penn State did, even though it will cost a lot of money and prestige. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Even Baylor."

Yes, Baylor did take steps that most programs wouldn't take. Such as covering up accusations of football players sexually assaulting women. Seems like they pretty much covered it up until they had no choice but to take action.

Will be interesting to see what all comes from this and to see if players are granted the waiver for sitting out a year if they transfer.​

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Which is a bigger story coach getting fired or a P5 football school not being able to participate in games this fall? This Briles thing will be yesterdays news by mid June if not sooner.

It would be an unprecedented event, and it makes the entire university endure punitive damages. This thing is beyond Briles, happy he is gone, but many of the others who were also aware of the problems get to stay.

Your being very obtuse if you do not realize the impact of what message it would send when a FOOTBALL program would take this step. It never will, because it is football, the cash cow, and no school would ever undertake it

Head coach, AD, possibly president, likelihood when it's all said and done, the entire or most of the coaching staff.

The terminations will stretch much further than just the head coach.

 

[CyCloned]

Okay, no one else has said it, so I will: Is there any Baylor player or recruits that ISU might want to/be able to bring in? Maybe a prior recruited kid or someone that Campbell targeted in the past? It looks to me like it might end up like rats jumping off a sinking ship in the end. Would love to get a couple of their OL. Generally the NCAA lets kids transfer without sitting out a year in these situations, right?

 

[fsanford]

Head coach, AD, possibly president, likelihood when it's all said and done, the entire or most of the coaching staff.

The terminations will stretch much further than just the head coach.

Will see if they don't then you going to come over to my dark side of thinking? Briles and some assistants getting canned is, as you put it, lip service.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Will see if they don't then you going to come over to my dark side of thinking? Briles and some assistants getting canned is, as you put it, lip service.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I think the firing of the coach that single handedly built up the program from one of the worst in the history of the sport and made them a perennial top 5 to top 10 team will do hundreds of more times damage to the program, athletic department and school then forfeiting two meaningless games.

 

[Mr Janny]

I've got time. Write a manifesto.

Look at the violations that the NCAA announced regarding the Bliss case. You don't see anything about the murder or its coverup in there. The violations were about him paying the tuition of players, recruiting violations, lying to investigators, and failure to report positive drug test violations. Those are all things the NCAA has specific rules about. They didn't really touch on the murder coverup. The NCAA imposed sanctions for things that are within their scope and didn't go much, if at all, beyond that.