Briles Out

[jsmith86]

If Penn State didn't get the death penalty, there is a less than zero percent chance Baylor will.

Baylor is a slightly different case though. Penn State's victims weren't members of the athletics department, while at Baylor, there was a female soccer player who was assaulted by a football player. I can see the NCAA playing hardball based on that, especially if that was that claimant who was retaliated against by the athletics department.

 

[mj4cy]

If Penn State can survive a coach raping little boys, Baylor will survive players raping women. Not saying it's right; just sayin.

Penn State had decades of history and national titles....they had tradition. Baylor had none of that.

 

[kingcy]

Players sticking up for a coach let them do whatever they wanted and even covered it up, shocking.

 

[laminak]

If Penn State can survive a coach raping little boys, Baylor will survive players raping women. Not saying it's right; just sayin.

True, however how often does the NCAA administer equal judgement for blue blood schools vs others?

 

[ExCyment]

Baylor is doing the right thing today and trying to make amends for the institutions terrible past behavior in this. I believe very few top 10 programs would take these actions. Most would dig in their heals line pedophile U.

 

[kentkel]

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EVERY head coach, staff, AD, player in coll. athletics shd be required to read Baylor report. If report doesn't send shivers, nothing will.

This should be required reading for all HS football coaches and D1 recruits, too. Would love to see them "shiver away" from any interest in BU.

 

[SerenityNow]

Surprised at how quickly they moved, but it was definitely the right move. From what little I've read turns my stomach.

Baylor has joined Kansas as the only 2 Big 12 teams I don't root for (when they're not playing ISU).

 

[everyyard]

Baylor is a slightly different case though. Penn State's victims weren't members of the athletics department, while at Baylor, there was a female soccer player who was assaulted by a football player. I can see the NCAA playing hardball based on that, especially if that was that claimant who was retaliated against by the athletics department.

Well, that's what happened at Iowa with Pierre Pierce and female athlete and...nothing.

 

[Tre4ISU]

It was bad enough that they needed to appear to do something. Starr is a big enough name that he can still be an asset for their law school.

Yes, and while I think he knew something about what was going on, there's a lot of plausible deniability at his level. I'll be quick to toss Brile and the AD but I'd like a little more info on what Starr actually knew before throwing him out as well.

Baylor could taking a huge penalty for PSU here similar to SMU taking one for pretty much every other program. Both are the expendable versions that got caught.

 

[State43]

Wow, very respectable of BU not to look the other way amid the scandal.

 

[jsmith86]

Wow, very respectable of BU not to look the other way amid the scandal.

I imagine they have some decent lawyers advising them.

 

[MeowingCows]

If anyone is curious, here's a really quick summary from the BOR statement more related to the Athletic Department:

Actions by University administrators directly discouraged some complainants from reporting or participating in student conduct processes and in one instance constituted retaliation against a complainant for reporting sexual assault.
In addition to broader University failings, Pepper found specific failings within both the football program and Athletics department leadership, including a failure to identify and respond to a pattern of sexual violence by a football player and to a report of dating violence.
There are significant concerns about the tone and culture within Baylor's football program as it relates to accountability for all forms of student athlete misconduct.
Over the course of their review, Pepper investigated the University's response to reports of a sexual assault involving multiple football players. The football program and Athletics department leadership failed to take appropriate action in response to these reports.

Source here: http://www.baylor.edu/mediacommunications/news.php?action=story&story=170207

 

[ISU_Clone_28]

Looks like they have just about as many people showing up at the football forum as they do their games.

 

[carvers4math]

Well, that's what happened at Iowa with Pierre Pierce and female athlete and...nothing.

Was his first victim a female athlete? Been so long, I just remember her being a student, but now that you mention it, maybe she was a basketball player? And that was the leverage they used to pressure her?

 

[cyhiphopp]

You'd like to think so, but nope, he added this later: "I am done. I don't want to be associated with a school that caves to public opinion. This is not right. But then again, I am not a Regent, and they have to live with the barn fire they've started."
http://www.baylorfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306870&page=4

To be fair to Baylor fans, I glanced over at that board and the majority seem to be saying that this should not have been allowed to happen and Baylor needs to clean house.

OH, well that's just horrendous. Some people are just bad people I guess.

 

[WooBadger18]

OH, well that's just horrendous. Some people are just bad people I guess.

Yeah, there are some over there. But a lot seem to have the right attitude. And I am glad Baylor is doing something (even if it is a little late).

 

[Jerms]

No, abandon the university that decided to cover-up and dissuade victims from reporting sexual assaults from 2012-2015 so they could win more football games.

But they didn't abandon them when the reports started coming out, they abandoned them when they fired the coach.

 

[Bader]

Jim Tressel didn't have a job for a year or two at least and then took 5 steps back as the coach of Youngstown State and what he did doesn't even remotely come close to this. Briles will be unemployed for a while I suspect.

Jim Tressel didn't have a job because the NCAA slapped him with a 5 year show-cause penalty

 

[cyhiphopp]

Was his first victim a female athlete? Been so long, I just remember her being a student, but now that you mention it, maybe she was a basketball player? And that was the leverage they used to pressure her?

Iowa AD and Alford did a lot of things wrong in that situation, but it wasn't as far reaching as the Baylor cases.

 

[GTO]

So.many.Briles.threads. Could a mod please merge into a Briles/Baylor mega-thread? Or at least change the site name to BaylorFanatic?

TIA