The worst division in baseball?! How much baseball do you honestly watch? Let me tell you a story about a little division known as the N.L. West.....
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The worst division in baseball?! How much baseball do you honestly watch? Let me tell you a story about a little division known as the N.L. West.....
I really liked the documentary, really captured that moment and the aftermath. Bartman definitely didn't deserve a damn bit of the vitriol thrown his way, and the documentarians were right that he was the only one that acted with class in the following weeks. After watching that footage again he was really lucky to get out of Wrigley unhurt.
The Bill Buckner portion of the documentary seemed unnecessary, especially after the 2 Red Sox titles and Buckner obviously moving on from it. Did anyone see the episode of Curb your Enthusiasm that Buckner guest starred in this year? It really poked fun at the whole incident and Buckner seemed like a great sport.
The Bill Buckner portion of the documentary seemed unnecessary, especially after the 2 Red Sox titles and Buckner obviously moving on from it. Did anyone see the episode of Curb your Enthusiasm that Buckner guest starred in this year? It really poked fun at the whole incident and Buckner seemed like a great sport.
Please. The AL central doesn't touch the NL West and the Tiger have a significant payroll. Obviously we can all fit this argument how we want with example like I gave earlier and the Mariners constantly sucking. My opinion is that the payroll situation does hurt baseball but only on a short term basis. Teams can still compete, just not as often or consistently. I won't argue that the Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, etc, have a better chance to consistently compete, but others still can. I think it's a joke that the we have 200,000,000 payrolls and 34,000,000 payrolls. I'm just saying the sport isn't always dominated by those rich teams. AT this point, though, I don't know if a payroll brings fans back. I mean you have a team in Tampa contending and they can't put ***** in the seats. You can't do much more than that. It just seems to me like less and less people are caring about baseball. Maybe I am wrong, but the buzz just isn't out there. I have heard mroe about Deangelo Hall this week than I have the AL East race.
I didn't mind the Buckner part. Similar situation on opposite sides of the fence and different types of "punishment." You would have had to cut it to an hour if it was just Bartman IMO. It's amazing how those two events are looked at in history. An average Joe would think they were both game 7, 9th inning with 2 out situations in the World Series.
Are you serious??? The NL West (while it may be bad) has 3 teams over .500, the AL Central has 1. Not only that they had a team win the world series last year. I know this doesn't say much, but it still counts.
I think the reason the Buckner part was in there was to try to illustrate the effect that being the scapegoat has on that individual. With Bartman refusing interviews, Buckner is really the closest thing they can get. Even then, it isn't a true comparison because as a pro athlete, Buckner was at least partially prepared for it. Poor Bartman was just a regular guy, in the wrong place at the wrong time, and it adversely affected his life forever.
Similar to Rick Sutcliffe in 1984 who knocked on out of the park in Game 1 against San Diego.
Not for Bartman. He keeps turning down incredibly easy money. Either he is just a wierdo or he has personal convictions that should make the Big 12 vagabonds ashamed.
In Chicago, we took credit/blame for the Buckner incident. It was the Billy Goat curse meeting the curse of the Bambino.
Have you heard of the ex-Cub factor? The team that loses the World Series is the team with the most ex-Cubs. I don't know if this is true, but lots of us in Chicago say it like we believe it. Years ago, the Sports page would have a chart showing the ex-Cub factor at the beginning of a World Series.
Some of you guys just don't get how deep the "loveable loser" self-image goes.
At least the Royals have won a WS since TV was invented. Cubs deserve the suffering they got after the way the Wrigley crowd treated that poor guy.
Why doesn't anyone blast the umps for not calling fan interference?
my professional psychological review of the situation (i watched dr phil a couple months ago, so i'm qualified):
If he didn't look like such a ****** (esp. with the headphones) and sit their the entire time dazed and out of the moment, there wouldn't have been nearly the same focus placed on him
he was making it way too easy to pile the whole situation on him
If he didn't look like such a ****** (esp. with the headphones) and sit their the entire time dazed and out of the moment, there wouldn't have been nearly the same focus placed on him
he was making it way too easy to pile the whole situation on him
Everyone blames him for just sitting there with his headphones on. What the hell would you have done when 40,000+ are screaming and yelling at you? I probably would have done the same thing.
What should he have done? I have a feeling doing what he did was the only way he could have not gotten a beating.
As some have pointed out earlier, sure it was a "game changing" moment. But I contend with a number of points.
1. Anyone, even every MLB player as pointed out by Buckner, would have had the same reaction. Fans, especially in this case, are forced to be part of the game. In fact there were about 6 other Chicago goombas doing the same thing just inches off.
2. It's a foul ball to begin with. Not a guaranteed out.
3. If your team/fanbase has the fragile mindset to let a botched foul ball ruin the entire momentum of the series, you probably don't belong there in the first place.
4. Not only did Gonzalez botch a grounder but Prior had an epic collapse. 8 runs in 1 inning, and not 1 attributed to that foul ball.
1. Anyone, even every MLB player as pointed out by Buckner, would have had the same reaction. Fans, especially in this case, are forced to be part of the game. In fact there were about 6 other Chicago goombas doing the same thing just inches off.
2. It's a foul ball to begin with. Not a guaranteed out.
3. If your team/fanbase has the fragile mindset to let a botched foul ball ruin the entire momentum of the series, you probably don't belong there in the first place.
4. Not only did Gonzalez botch a grounder but Prior had an epic collapse. 8 runs in 1 inning, and not 1 attributed to that foul ball.
having any kind of reaction at all would have been a good start... if you're aggravated at someone and their response is to act oblivious to the situation, that just aggravates you more
me personally, i would have thrown all of the money in my wallet up in the air to the fans around me, then jumped over the wall and streak'ed naked across the field.. if i'm going to be famous for something i might as well make it count
That's pretty easy to say when you don't have a thousand people around you threatening to kick your ***.
I honestly think he was in a complete state of shock throughout all of that. The woman in charge of security said when they were protecting him that Steve asked them shat had happened and really didnt remember it clearly. I don't blame him for looking the way he did if the lights were on with no one home.
The guy did nothing wrong...your coment is wrong. Are you seriouse...who cares what he looks like. Typical Cub fan...always blame it on someone else.
