The offense seems more patient this year. Willing to work the ball around more rather than trying to force it.
Differences from last year to this year - coaching angle
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Yikes man. I don't think he was out of line with his observations. Relax. Enjoy the season!
Things I think we need to address (I played freshmen ball in highschool so obviously qualified)
-Free throw shooting. I feel it's mental, but that's going to cost us a game if we don't fix it.
-Starting games slow. Yes it was only 7-2, but we play a better team and it'll be 18-1 or something like it was at Baylor last year.
-Boxing out. We were great at flying to the ball for rebounds, but someone has to get a body on their bigs.
All of these are nitpicky and correctable so not much to complain about. Go Cyclones!
I would say a vast majority of coaches yell out instructions from the bench. Hoiberg was one of those seldom few we didn't. We are not used to that. To be honest, I like Prohms animated demeanor on the bench. Stark contrast from Hoiberg. One of Hoiberg's downfalls I think was he wasn't that vocal, or animated on the bench.
I know... It's three games in, but this was weird. On the offensive end, Prohm was yelling CONSTANTLY. That's more yelling than a typical HS coach. So, I'm actually concerned about this. Didn't they have sets clearly defined before the game with some simple signals? If Chattanooga switched their defense up from previous games, how about time-outs or half-time?
I'm probably over-reacting, but I hope they don't tune him out. For god's sake, Cooke was the only player on the floor who hasn't been playing with this group. Maybe someone can enlighten my weak basketball mind on this?
edited to note ... I assumed they had been working on Prohm's sets all summer / fall. Another positive, George played 27 extremely efficient minutes. At one point it seemed like he hadn't done much and he had 17 of those points. I kind of take him for granted.
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It's weird I couldn't hear Prohm in first game. So the students being gone was probably the reason we could hear him.
I realize that we had games with turnovers but I honestly don't remember anyone having success pressing us last year.
Arkansas and WVU tried and failed.
KU and OU may have worked it in occasionally, but I don't remember it being much, and btw we went 4-2 against those them.
I feel like K-State may have pressed us a couple of times in Manhattan when they came from behind at the end.
We rarely have more than 1 player on the court that can't handle the ball, so the press is the least of my worries.
8 rebounds per game for a guard off the bench is impressive no matter who the competition is.
McKay is potentially going to be among the nation's leading rebounders. Comparing him on the boards now and last December is night and day. Not saying a second guy to kill it on the boards would hurt, but he's gonna get a ton of boards.
I doubt you will see any press coverage from KU at all. Self hates to press and the last thing you want to do to a team that likes to get out on the break is press them. Butler hung 144 on a team because they pressed them on every play and that's BUTLER. KU did well in the game @Lawrence last year because they dropped back on defense early and often, not due to any type of press.
It's like they have a brand new coach and all new plays to learn... And no, they haven't been working on Prohm's sets all summer, since practice doesn't start until October. Coaches have very limited contact with players over the summer and they are mostly out recruiting in the summer.
It is constant with you. Just because the guy states some concerns and positives doesn't mean he is worked up. You ALWAYS blow things out of proportion. I think if anyone on this board needs to R-E-L-A-X it is you. Relax and read the posts. I really don't think the OP was being impatient or unrealistic, just general observations.
Ya, IIRC, the second game against Kansas, it was a focus to sprint back down on defense because McKay made the Jayhawks his ***** in transition the first game.
Thought they looked just a little rusty in their press break. As the game went on they got more and more comfortable in it, but ISU is just a terrible team to press. Good to get one of these teams early at home instead of trying to work that stuff out on the road.
I've just watched the games on CyclonesTV, but I've heard Prohm a few times but other than that his sideline demeanor seems similar to Fred's. Not much jawing at the refs and during TO's he's calmly talking to the team like Fred did.
If you're at the games does his demeanor seem that much different?
Think Chattanooga is a good team, I was impressed by how in control ISU was the entire game.
I've just watched the games on CyclonesTV, but I've heard Prohm a few times but other than that his sideline demeanor seems similar to Fred's. Not much jawing at the refs and during TO's he's calmly talking to the team like Fred did.
If you're at the games does his demeanor seem that much different?
Think Chattanooga is a good team, I was impressed by how in control ISU was the entire game.
I don't think it's anything to worry about. Just coaching style. If we looked lost on the court while he was yelling out plays, then it'd be concerning. I laugh because I usually can only make out "Dooly" every time.
I like our ball movement this year. It seems like each game we have had 2 or 3 possessions were the ball is moved from seamlessly from side to side leading to a wide open shot. Reminds me of Babb's senior season.
It seems like we are taking smarter threes this year. Not sure if that is coaching style or a year of maturity. I loved that we realized it wasn't our night from deep against CU, and we drove hard. I know this is what the defense was dictating to us, but we did a great job of taking advantage.
I like what we have shown so far, especially this early against what I see as a tournament team.... My disappointment last night was the lack of running plays at the end of the game when we went a little cold shooting. And overall the rebounding(thought last nights effort there was more back to last year).... I get that it is non-conference mode and getting up for every game for the whole game is tough, but those were my criticisms from last night.
Thank you. Took the words out of my mouth. I thought my observations were pretty positive and even stated that there were far more positives than negatives. Go State!!
Huh? Where's Tuco at I need to ask him if he has seen KU press in the entire Bill Self era when not trailing by more than 10 or within the last 2 minutes of a game that they are down in.
edit: Tuco already cleared this up should have known he can smell people typing "KU".
As far as OU goes I don't think they ever press either.
