Do you want Campbell gone?

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clonedude

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So... after sleeping on that debacle yesterday... here's where I'm at with CMC...

No way is Matt ever going to be fired mid-season... so anyone wishing for that will never get their wish. And honestly I don't think he should be fired mid-season either. That wouldn't help anything, and probably only hurt this program.

So I think JP has to give Matt the remainder of this season to prove that he can still coach. A huge part of "coaching" is the ability to make adjustments. It is Matt's job to win football games, plain and simple. If what you've been trying, from a strategy standpoint, is not working with the team you've built, then you HAVE to show you can adjust and find a way to be successful with what you have. That's the job. That's why you get $4 million a year.

Last week against Iowa we could not run the ball at all. It flat out wasn't working, and we didn't try anything different until it was basically too late. But that was against a very good Iowa defense. So I could see coming into a game against MAC opponent Ohio where you could think to yourself that we're going to go out and impose our will on this team like a Big 12 team should be able to do... this is Ohio, not Iowa.

But it was VERY evident after one quarter, that the run game was not improved at all, and actually probably worse than it was against Iowa even. You could tell early on that this game was going to be a dogfight to the end unless we tried something different to open up their defense. But once again... no lesson learned at all... and we stubbornly still refused to open up the passing game and continued trying to run into a stacked front. And once again, we waited until it was WAY too late to make Ohio defend the entire field. That is indefensible.

Matt needs to go out the rest of this season and show he can adapt to the talent he has, and to force defenses to defend the entire field in the rest of these games this season. If he can't do that, or refuses to, then I think a change needs to be made after the season. Matt has shown he can do it... the OU game that Kempt started years ago. So if he is too stubborn to change, then he's gotta go IMO.
 

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The way I see it is that in 2017 mid season we completely revamped our defense. This change helps us foster in a new level of success.

Now I don’t think we are a bowl team this year but I think there is a chance that this game serves as a wake up call that our current offensive philosophy is DOA.

I’m looking at this year hopefully like the 2016 year were the team we have at the end is vastly different than the team that began losing to UNI.

It is an unbelievable waste to have two years with an amazing defense with no bowls to show for it.

I still think we can squeak out a few wins but we won’t if we keep the same game plan each week.
 

cyphoon

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Answer: No. Not yet.

But I want to see offensive changes that give the players we have a chance to succeed. Running between the tackles on every first down isn’t going to work because we don’t have the horses up front to play predictable football. Even when we do get push up front, the other team has unblocked players committed to stopping the run that chase the RB down before he gets to the line.

We need to focus on passing 50 % of the time on first down to remove predictability from the equation. Our offense would also benefit from some misdirection to make the other team pay for aggressively pursuing where they think the ball is going. Would like to see some first down play action, a counter play with 2 backs in the backfield, a reverse every once in a while, and an occasional jet sweep. We also need at least one screen pass that actually works.

Unfortunately, I don’t think any changes are coming.

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I don’t want Campbell gone. I think he is a stand up coach and a great leader of men. However, I want him to take a deep look at the offense and figure out why it’s not working. Is it scheme, player talent, diversity, etc? He can’t just keep the same narrative that it’s lack of execution. Fixing the running game is priority number one. Further, if you don’t have the players to execute your scheme, you better change the scheme or get the right type of players who can execute it. Can’t just keep doing the same thing when it clearly is not working.
 

Skyh13

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Fire him or don’t, I kinda feel like it doesn’t really matter.
 

Cyched

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I don’t want Campbell gone. I think he is a stand up coach and a great leader of men. However, I want him to take a deep look at the offense and figure out why it’s not working. Is it scheme, player talent, diversity, etc? He can’t just keep the same narrative that it’s lack of execution. Fixing the running game is priority number one. Further, if you don’t have the players to execute your scheme, you better change the scheme or get the right type of players who can execute it. Can’t just keep doing the same thing when it clearly is not working.

It’s been frustrating because MC has shown he can change in the past when warranted.

Overhauled the defense in 2017, hired a ST coordinator last year, hired a new OL coach (OL play was frustrating yesterday, but Clanton has a good coaching record).

I hope they do a deep look at the offense this week and change some things up. Tailor things to the personnel instead of trying the square peg approach.

If we see more of the same against OSU (and that game is winnable at home despite the last couple weeks) it’ll get ugly.
 

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ClonerJams

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I voted yes, but he isn't getting canned after this year. I'm hoping losing to a Mac team due to a putrid offensive philosophy is the wake-up call he needs, but I have my doubts.
 
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It’s been frustrating because MC has shown he can change in the past when warranted.

Overhauled the defense in 2017, hired a ST coordinator last year, hired a new OL coach (OL play was frustrating yesterday, but Clanton has a good coaching record).

I hope they do a deep look at the offense this week and change some things up. Tailor things to the personnel instead of trying the square peg approach.

If we see more of the same against OSU (and that game is winnable at home despite the last couple weeks) it’ll get ugly.

Blaming others for his flaws isn’t CMC changing anything

That’s the biggest red flag. He’s known there is an issue. Has spent a lot of time on it. Yet his diagnosis and solutions have legitimately made things worse.

He’s apparently egotistical enough he can’t understand he needs to outsource offense and ST. He is not good enough. If he wants to play OC then hire a mentor that can help
 

LtRaczack

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So... after sleeping on that debacle yesterday... here's where I'm at with CMC...

No way is Matt ever going to be fired mid-season... so anyone wishing for that will never get their wish. And honestly I don't think he should be fired mid-season either. That wouldn't help anything, and probably only hurt this program.

So I think JP has to give Matt the remainder of this season to prove that he can still coach. A huge part of "coaching" is the ability to make adjustments. It is Matt's job to win football games, plain and simple. If what you've been trying, from a strategy standpoint, is not working with the team you've built, then you HAVE to show you can adjust and find a way to be successful with what you have. That's the job. That's why you get $4 million a year.

Last week against Iowa we could not run the ball at all. It flat out wasn't working, and we didn't try anything different until it was basically too late. But that was against a very good Iowa defense. So I could see coming into a game against MAC opponent Ohio where you could think to yourself that we're going to go out and impose our will on this team like a Big 12 team should be able to do... this is Ohio, not Iowa.

But it was VERY evident after one quarter, that the run game was not improved at all, and actually probably worse than it was against Iowa even. You could tell early on that this game was going to be a dogfight to the end unless we tried something different to open up their defense. But once again... no lesson learned at all... and we stubbornly still refused to open up the passing game and continued trying to run into a stacked front. And once again, we waited until it was WAY too late to make Ohio defend the entire field. That is indefensible.

Matt needs to go out the rest of this season and show he can adapt to the talent he has, and to force defenses to defend the entire field in the rest of these games this season. If he can't do that, or refuses to, then I think a change needs to be made after the season. Matt has shown he can do it... the OU game that Kempt started years ago. So if he is too stubborn to change, then he's gotta go IMO.
Cautious optimism we can grind out a 3-0 or 6-3 win against the Cowboys next weekend.
 
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tomar1

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I dont think it's the players fault
The coaches can’t play for them! Either we don’t have the talent we thought we had which seems to be the case. Having a good QB is essential and not sure we do.
 

drmwevr08

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Absolutely not. I want to see him adjust and adapt and take more chances, but man, he's a good coach. He cares about this program and his kids. He stuck with ISU when he didn't have to.
Maybe he did that because he thought he'd not get so much static. Or because he knows JP won't fire him. Either way, at what point does that loyalty cease to be enough? If he goes 3 or fewer wins this year and next?
 

singsing

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Kinda getting a Scott Frost kinda feel.. Hoping and praying buy the product on the field doesn't give me confidence.
 

JCity

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The coaches can’t play for them! Either we don’t have the talent we thought we had which seems to be the case. Having a good QB is essential and not sure we do.
You don't put any blame of the coaching staff?
 
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cyowa

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Let’s look at the point here, which is our coach just about went after a fan.

We should go back to not playing Iowa.
This! UNI too. Go to the Snyder plan. Play only guaranteed wins for the nonconference, and go into the conference 3-0, and build from there a winning conference slate for bowl games
And winning seasons. Bill had it figured out.
 
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