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I have a friend that works under pollard for Iowa State marketing (high up). He says Florida State will be announced in the next couple weeks. He isn't for sure about Clemson. The only thing that would hold up is "legal ramifications".
Wow, that's fast!
 

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Of course we have to win, no argument there. But Iowa is not a lock for the top half of their conference either in the years to come...they have made a living on getting the pick of the state, getting some decent players nationally and putting together some decent teams driven by line play. But reality is they haven't been that good in a conference that nationally is not as good as the SEC and Big 12. If the SEC and BIG 12 are successful in widening that gap, then it helps Iowa State by raising its talent. Talent wins games. Money keeps coaches, Coaches recruit talent.

Yeah, you seem to think the SEC and big 12 are equals. They aren't. Its the SEC then everybody else right now. The big 12 has been much closer to the level of the big ten than the SEC over the past decade, not that it really matters. The power will always change in college football, no single conference, or two conferences will forever reign supreme. Besides, there are too many power programs and too much money in the bigten for it to remain down for much longer.

Finally, aren't these sort of elitist comments what ISU fans hate about Iowa fans?
 

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I have a friend that works under pollard for Iowa State marketing (high up). He says Florida State will be announced in the next couple weeks. He isn't for sure about Clemson. The only thing that would hold up is "legal ramifications".

By "legal ramifications" did he mean Notre Dame?
 

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By "legal ramifications" did he mean Notre Dame?

Tortious interference, Big 12 ruining a contract between ACC schools, that whole song-and-dance that we've already seen before. Got to make sure their tracks are properly covered. Helps that Ken Starr is not an ACC president.
 

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It will still take time... Even if we get another 2 to 4 million a year, we'd still get less then Iowa does.

With the new tv deal, we're planning to get 20 million add 2 to 4 million to that, and we're still getting 2 million to 600,000 less then Iowa. Know something before blatantly posting something dumb.



Like it is never done over on HN.... let's be serious.

Our 3rd tier deal may be worth more than $4 M when it's all said and done. Also, the recent Big XII renegotiation with ESPN has automatic escalators which kick in with the addition of certain teams, FSU and Clemson being two of them. So, in short we will be ahead of Iowa, and the rest of the Big Ten very soon.
 

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isnt the big 10 now on the oldest tv contract of the conferences?

i'd have to think when they and the sec renegotiate its going to be a monster deal considering how much tv contracts have exploded in the last 3 yrs or so all after they both signed their deals

we might catch up to big ten teams for a bit in terms of tv but id guess theyre going to take off again whenever they get to renegotiate

True. And when the Big XII renegotiates it's future TV deals with the additions we'll have made to the conference, it will also be a monster deal. The bottom line is the Big XII is putting itself in a position to reap as much (and more) TV revenue than any of the other "Big 4" conferences.
 

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I don't think it really matters if we catch the hawks, or don't catch the hawks in terms of TV $$$...

AS ****** as it has always been trying to get by on less, it has helped to develop a sense of maximizing each dollar. When we get more dollars to maximize, we can grow further.

In essance, it will be catching up, facility and budget wise. But with the history of being at least somewhat competitive with the meager resources we have had the last 20 years, there is a higher ceiling for development with the extra cash.
 

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Its going to be pretty difficult, I think, to try to compare the instate schools in football soon, as I really do think they are going to stop playing each other. Assuming the new TV deals through all the BCS conferences are going to require 9 conference games and bowls may shift to 7 win requirements I don't see either team wanting to schedule anything besides 3 cupcakes out of schedule. It may even be a conference mandate as more bowl teams = more money. So these arguments will probably remain the same biased squabbling about Iowa won a game or 2 more but in a weaker conference. Who's better?
 

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Let us try to first win 8 games in the regular season, before we get hyped up about other stuff. Cyclone fans , including me thought we were going to be THE team in the state of Iowa during the turn of the century, with the all the basketball wins and beating the qwaks 5 times in a row, but look where we are right now. Let us try to achieve small things before we dream big.
 
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No. It's the SEC, then the Big 12, then everybody else right now.

No, it really isn't. Last year the big 12 had a great year no doubt. But like it has for the past 100 years, the power will constantly shift. Even the mighty SEC will eventually join the rest of the pack.
 

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No, it really isn't. Last year the big 12 had a great year no doubt. But like it has for the past 100 years, the power will constantly shift. Even the mighty SEC will eventually join the rest of the pack.
Hence the 'right now' part of his sentence.
 

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No, it really isn't. Last year the big 12 had a great year no doubt. But like it has for the past 100 years, the power will constantly shift. Even the mighty SEC will eventually join the rest of the pack.

I think the SEC is indeed apart from the other conferences simply because of what is acceptable down there. They over-sign, cheat in the classroom and pay players on a greater scale than the others and that's "SEC football". And if you're looking for proof I have two words; Gene Chizik.
 

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Its going to be pretty difficult, I think, to try to compare the instate schools in football soon, as I really do think they are going to stop playing each other. Assuming the new TV deals through all the BCS conferences are going to require 9 conference games and bowls may shift to 7 win requirements I don't see either team wanting to schedule anything besides 3 cupcakes out of schedule. It may even be a conference mandate as more bowl teams = more money. So these arguments will probably remain the same biased squabbling about Iowa won a game or 2 more but in a weaker conference. Who's better?

I was wondering the same thing. With conference expansion ... likely more in-conference games and raising the bar to 7 wins for a bowl game ... how long until we stop playing Iowa. At this point, I can't say that I would miss it. How important is playing UI to our long term future anymore anyway? Put a different way, I would think that increasing our chances for a bowl game would be far more important than playing the hawks; just my opinion.
 

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I was wondering the same thing. With conference expansion ... likely more in-conference games and raising the bar to 7 wins for a bowl game ... how long until we stop playing Iowa. At this point, I can't say that I would miss it. How important is playing UI to our long term future anymore anyway? Put a different way, I would think that increasing our chances for a bowl game would be far more important than playing the hawks; just my opinion.

But if we stopped playing EIU, wouldn't we be losing our Super Bowl???
 

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This thread became about Iowa far sooner than it should have. Not surprised...disappointed.
 
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I was wondering the same thing. With conference expansion ... likely more in-conference games and raising the bar to 7 wins for a bowl game ... how long until we stop playing Iowa. At this point, I can't say that I would miss it. How important is playing UI to our long term future anymore anyway? Put a different way, I would think that increasing our chances for a bowl game would be far more important than playing the hawks; just my opinion.

I like the Iowa game. I want to discuss football with the people around me. It's called rivalries. We have lost all our other pseudo rivalries, I don't want to lose this one too. College football is losing the smaller rivalries that make the sport great. Not too many FSU/Clemson fans for me to talk sports with in Central Iowa.
 

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