Future of the Offense

The_Architect

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Re: stupid looking

A bit off topic, but I think the way our skill players look at the sidelines before every single snap is one of the dumber coaching models I've ever seen.

1. It looks ridiculous
2. It eats up time (antithesis of hurry up)
3. It breaks players' concentration
4. It is too coach dependent; I would guess that it actually stunts players' football IQ (akin to hand-holding from the sideline)
5. I've seen no appreciable evidence that it actually helps us to respond to defensive alignments

I don't want to get too Freudian here, but this tactic seems to be little more than a window onto the obsessive compulsiveness and hubris of Herman. With so much ballyhoo out there about his Mensa credentials (this kind of rumor almost always has its subject as source), this whole strategy just stinks of Herman being convinced that he's always the smartest guy on the field. To me, its actually anathema to smart, team-oriented football.

Are you not aware of how many teams are running the "hurry up Meerkat?" OU did the exact same thing last night. Dumb dumb post.
 

Land Grant

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Re: stupid looking

We aren't a hurry up offense. We are a no huddle offense. There is a difference.

Yes, I know this. And I understand the value of the no huddle is to limit defensive adjustment and substitution. That said, I still think that these drawn out looks to the sideline cost more than they pay by distracting players and interrupting the flow of the game.
 

Land Grant

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Are you not aware of how many teams are running the "hurry up Meerkat?" OU did the exact same thing last night. Dumb dumb post.


OU did nothing like this in real terms. Our plays unfold like molasses thanks to this silly system. Call the post dumb if you like, but show me the evidence of success.
 

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I hope someday we run our plays off as fast a Oklahoma does. That was fun to watch snapping the ball with 20-25 sec on the clock.
 

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I hope someday we run our plays off as fast a Oklahoma does. That was fun to watch snapping the ball with 20-25 sec on the clock.
That would be the text book definition of a Hurry Up offense, or should we say "Nascar". Their first few offensive series, they were going so fast, I was having trouble trying to keep up just sitting on my couch.
 

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If Capello is a better passer than there is no point in playing JT, he's just another AA - might as well get Capello snaps and see what he can do. However, I'm sure if Capello was better he would be getting playing time.

CPR is not going to throw a RFr out there against Utah, OU or Texas. Good way to ruin his confidence right from the get go. If or when our bowl game officially goes down the tubes we might see him more if his talent is comparable to JT.
 

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Why can't players contribute in year one. I get tired of give them time. Even in BB our players need to step it up in year 1, thats what coaches get paid for, recruit better then.
 

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I really do not like to look back offense. It doesn't seem like it is working, if they are changing the play it doesn't appear to be much better than whatever was called in the first place. I would much rather have the team get into the huddle and get everyone on the same page and then run a play. There still needs to be some check offs for blitzes, but most of the time this is not something you can call from the sideline anyway. I also hate that we have OL trying to hold a stance for 25-30 seconds.

If they are going to maintain the look back, then snap the ball without looking back once in a while, just to throw the other team off.
 

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There will be no QB that will ever do anything @ ISU if the o'line does not stop a 4 man rush or pick up the blitz!!! they could not even open any holes to run through....sorry but AA & JT or any QB that you bring in has no chance playing there best while running for life and getting sacked each play.. it starts with the line...so you say Aob is not good because he did not get huge numbers, or SJ or. Woody, lets bulid the line and then see what AA or JT can do when playing a very tuff reall big12 team ot top 25 team!!!

Starts with protection and opening lanes for runners!!!
 

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That would be the text book definition of a Hurry Up offense, or should we say "Nascar". Their first few offensive series, they were going so fast, I was having trouble trying to keep up just sitting on my couch.

They stress me out on my 360. Just trying to get a play called before my chance is over. When they're driving with that pace, it's mentally exhausting.
 

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who says all of the players we need will be here in 2 years? Better get used to winning without perfect players Tom
 

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who says all of the players we need will be here in 2 years? Better get used to winning without perfect players Tom

When I was at OCS, I mentioned in an After-Action Report that a training exercise would have been more effective if we'd had some additional equipment.

The response I got was one I never forgot: "Sometimes, Candidate, we don't have all of the time or equipment or resources that we want, or need, or think we need, but the mission goes on, and you find a way to get it done." And I paid for my big mouth, but that's cool.

If he doesn't have the folks he needs (and he doesn't), is there a way to adapt to the ones he has?
 

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...it starts with the line...so you say Aob is not good because he did not get huge numbers, or SJ or. Woody, lets bulid the line and then see what AA or JT can do...

I agree with this, we need a killer offensive and defensive line to start making things work. For this to happen we need to find players that fit the system on both sides of the ball.

What would also help is not having one of the toughest schedules in the country year in, year out. I don't think we're a good football team, but I also don't think we're as bad as the last two losses indicate. Lighten the non conference schedule and create a little breathing room.

We're going to reach the mountain top. It's just going to be really painful before things get better for us. I totally believe in our coach.
 
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THE LAST THING THIS PROGRAM NEEDS IS MORE COACHING CHANGES. WE NEED A GOOD 5-6 YRS OF AS MUCH CONTINUITY AS WE CAN GET TO BEGIN TO GET A FOUNDATION IN THE PROGRAM WHERE WE HAVE A SYSTEM, DEPTH, AND CAN COMPETE FOR BOWLS EVERY YEAR.

YES I AM YELLING!

Sorry.......this is unrelated to your post, but your avatar made me think of this:

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JUKEBOX

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At ISU, wouldn't it be more logical to have an offense that involves less skill positions and more power (like Nebraska of old and Iowa)? It's hard to find speed in Iowa.

I would be very happy with this offense though if Herman gets it to work!
 

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If Capello is a better passer than there is no point in playing JT, he's just another AA - might as well get Capello snaps and see what he can do. However, I'm sure if Capello was better he would be getting playing time.

I'd love to see Capello get snaps, but the staff is just in safe mode at the moment and won't play him till there is no hope of a bowl game (imo)
 

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We've had three 'dual threat' QB's in a row: Wallace, Meyer and Arnaud. A kid who can endure a strong pass rush and still deliver the ball to open spots in the defense would have a tremendous difference. I keep going back to Todd Reesing. Man I wish we could find a guy in that mold, would take us places.