Uh.... not when the argument was Iowa had a worse SOS than tOSU, Baylor, UNC, or FSU.
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Ok then why the hell does that matter? Is it no longer a cupcake schedule since other teams had cupcake schedules too?
Pretty comparable IMO. The thing that jumped out at me is that Oklahoma State and TCU both had tougher schedules than Michigan State.
Like I've already said, I think the listed teams along with Iowa have had weak schedules. I would call a schedule like Temple's or Houston's a cupcake, but to each their own.
That ranking is after 13 games. It is including the Mich. St game. Nobody is arguing about Mich. St being a quality team but they didn't play Mich St during the regular season which is the argument here. Take them out and where is Iowa? Do we have to include Stanford after the bowl game? Not to mention they lost to the first great team played...ah, why am I arguing this? Have fun in the Rose bowl...
Every fan base has obnoxious fans. I get that it's annoying when you have to deal with them, but it's the truth. If his posts bother you that much then unfollow him. It's not that difficult, but please don't confuse yourself into thinking every Iowa fan is as brash as he is. I know Cyclone fans who are exactly the same way... taking shots at Iowa's schedule throughout the entire year in an attempt to diminish what they've been able to accomplish. I have several of them on my facebook page as well. Now that the Hawks have finally played well against a team that was deemed "good enough" it's silence. I just do my best not to let it get to me and if it becomes too bad I won't hesitate to unfollow.
In reality, it's been pretty obvious all along that Iowa was a damn good team. No one nationally wanted to give them credit because "well they are just Iowa". Few Cyclone fans wanted to give them credit for obvious reasons. The Hawks should have a damn good team next year as well. That's reality. At least the results from this season will have earned them some respect heading into next year so they probably won't have to deal with the same level of idiocy from national talking heads.
~ with reason.
Iowa beat 8 teams w/out winning records. astounding they're #5.
..... No Penn St, Mich., Mich St., Ohio St. That is lunacy
Stanford in comparison has 8 wins against Bowl teams
ISU should be allowed to skip OU, TCU, Baylor on the schedule and play Kansas three additional times. We'd be bowling every year
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Everyone was taking shots at Iowa's schedule, not just ISU fans and it was deserved. When Iowa's most impressive game all season was arguably their only loss I think that speaks volumes to how pathetic their schedule actually was.
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Here's 1 bit of respect that I will give Iowa is that they beat everyone they should have beat on their schedule as I wouldn't consider any of their wins suprising upsets. I can't say that about ISU this season, we left a few wins on the table that should not have been losses. That being said it was a weak schedule but they played the hand dealt to them and came out winners so you can't fault them on that because they did what they should have done. I won't go as far to say that they were legit national title contenders because we already know that MSU can beat them and I think the other 3 teams in the playoffs are by far better teams than Iowa, Alabama and OU especially probably would have won big against the Hawks with the type of offense they run.
I hope Hawk fans enjoy their Rose Bowl appearance, their team earned it but that doesn't mean I have to root for them to win the game. Not saying I am going to root for Stanford either, I'm not a fan of either team so I just don't really give a damn and just because I am from Iowa does not mean by default I have to root for the Hawks just because they are still playing. I think the MSU loss definately quieted their fan base and humbled them a little knowing what it is like to finally play a team that is at least as good if not better than their team. Could you imagine just how obnoxious it would have been today had they been in the playoff? We probably would never have heard the end of if even years from now.
So I finally swung my one of employee's cube to see how the weekend went. (He was in Indy and to his credit, has a Master's from UI)
Seriously butt hurt; no appreciation for their accomplishments; complained about the lack of depth and conditioning of Iowa's D line at the end.
I'm glad it was a ****** trip for him.
Seriously butt hurt; no appreciation for their accomplishments; complained about the lack of depth and conditioning of Iowa's D line at the end.
I'm glad it was a ****** trip for him.
I was in Indy and it was an outstanding experience regardless of the loss. Two very similar teams that gave everything they had and left it all on the field. It's unfortunate your coworker is too upset about the loss to appreciate what was on display. The Hawks have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. Sure, some things could have gone differently and there are always coaching moments to be found, but you can't ask for more than what they gave on Saturday night. I think it's a travesty when fans are too blinded by a loss to see things clearly. The young men who played in that game on both teams should be damn proud of what it took for them to get there and how they performed once they arrived.
Can someone translate this to English for me? People discussing if Iowa should be in the Rose Bowl, even though no other team is mentioned as deserving?
This thread is Exhibit A to why Iowa State is referred to as little brother. There is so much animosity and discontent towards Iowa it is a little sickening. Not to mention there is a real segment of the Iowa State fan base that actually thinks there is a conspiracy in place by officials and the powers that be to screw Iowa State at every turn. A somewhat sizeable portion of Iowa's fan base may be guilty of the things you attribute to them (in reality, most State fans only know one or two Iowa fans who fit the "Tavern Hok" stereotype), but Iowa State's fan base has its share of flaws, too (for instance, I have never seen a fan base that whines as much).
Iowa reached the Big 10 title game Saturday without having faced Mighican, Ohio St or Michigan St to get there. If ISU removed two basketball games vs Kansas, two games vs Oklahoma and two games vs West Virginia, ISU might go 12-0 too. It's literally no different. And ISU would be critized just the same, inside the state and out.
