Terrence Lewis will be in the rotation. Hard to find 6-6 athletic players that can also shoot.
How far will the bench extend?
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Yeah, didn't Prohm just say very recently that the freshmen will play this year. Thought I read that somewhere? So you have to figure that Lewis and McNeill will see plenty of action (Wigg is a given), just a matter of how much?
I'd really like to see Long give us something as well. You never hear much about him from anyone. Lots of rumors out there that Kasongo won't give us much, but you don't hear hardly anything on Long.
I think that is an interesting point. We didn't play past 7 much last year and at times 8, but we played more than 7 guys last year. It is just that who came off the bench for 7-8-9 changed a lot during the year.
demoncore1031
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An observation that goes beyond how far into the bench we might go on a regular basis: ISU might simply have more "options" with this unit, a larger pool from which to draw.
Several guys appear talented and full of potential, although many are unproven or inexperienced, but at least the roster isn't limited to only 6 or 7 scholarship players. We'll see how well Prohm can shape it.
Several guys appear talented and full of potential, although many are unproven or inexperienced, but at least the roster isn't limited to only 6 or 7 scholarship players. We'll see how well Prohm can shape it.
don't ask me where I read this, but I saw a quote that prohm prefers a 7 man roation with guys 8 and 9 getting spot minutes. I know Hoiberg rarely played more than 8.
I like Weiler-Babb so do not take this wrong... But I would not call him an efficient scorer...
Of the guys in the rotation last year, he had the worst true shooting % of anybody but Holden. True shooting percentage is basically a measurement of the points you score relative to the shots you take. Guys who take/make a lot of three point shots, have a high 2 PT%, or draw a lot of fouls and make their free throws (or some combination of the same) tend to do well under this. That is "efficiency." What points do you produce from shot attempts?
Matt and Naz were super efficient because they took a lot of threes and made a ton of them. Solomon was efficient because he took few shots, but most of them were likely point blank dunks or put backs, so he was efficient even without much volume. Jackson was similar to the Super Splash Brothers. Morris and Burton, love them as I did, were more volume scorers, mostly because Morris was not quite as good of a shooter as the other guards and never was the best at drawing fouls, and Deonte could chuck a lil'. The fact Deonte was not great at free throws definitely hurt him on this metric, as well. He drew a fair number but missed a lot of shots.
I think he (Nick) will improve greatly, particularly if he ups his 3 PT %, but I do not really see a case he was an efficient scorer last year based on the above.
Overall player efficiency, though...
Well, still not great. That stat gives Monte and Deonte credit for their rebounding and their assists, which is a more balanced look at their performance.
I think we all think Nick has potential, but the productivity has not been there yet.
If people had to pick one, just one wildcard aka unknown player on this roster to break out for major minutes who would it be? As I've stated before my fav is Cameron Lard but there is the limited film for judgment. At this time I would have to pick Lewis. The difference as you stated is the 3 ball. Additionally at 6'6" his athleticism has high potential to become a deadly combo. He could play several spots. This kid has the look of a mad dog baller with determination. The more I watch his film and read about him the more I like him.
Why do you believe that? Is it because in print they are said to be taller than that? If you know, then great, but almost everyone's height is lied about on paper.
My point was that players came in and out of that short rotation, meaning they were in favor for awhile and part of the rotation, then disappeared and reappeared.
Those are the two really unknowns. Wigg is assumed as big contributor due to 5 star status, performance against that best competition as possible at that level, and because we need it to be so. Lard is such an unknown since it has been two years since he actually played much and we always wonder how young bigs will do until they get the muscle to grow into their bodies. Haven't personally seen him play/scrimmage, but if he is at the upper end of expectations rather than the lower, it will make a big impact. Lewis is the one I think actually gets the most overlooked of the new freshmen, as he was such a high level performer in HS. Again if Lewis performs in the upper range of his potential, this team has real possibilities. At that point we would have no glaring holes. I don't mean I am down on McNeil, but understand he is very slight built and coaches have talked about his need to gain strength. We will certainly need to play team ball and share the rock, but it will be fun to see who emerges as a go to scorer in the crunch.
Its impossible to predict this time of year. Last year we were all debating Holden vs Young vs Bowie vs Carter, and making the same types of guesses:
Will Carter have put on enough muscle and developed his game? (apparently not)
Can Young contribute as a rookie? (eventually, heck yeah)
Is Holden the rim protector Fred never had, a real difference maker? (nope)
How good is Bowie really and will he play the 3? 4? 5? (still not sure lol)
Wiggington, Lewis seem like sure things, but they are freshmen. Let's try to have some patience and not expect Monte 2.0 on day 1.
The transfers? I expect they will play more early than late in the season, at least one will barely play at all, and there will be much carping about Prohm's transfer recruiting. Frankly, to some extent they are there to buy time and eat minutes so you don't throw the freshmen totally to the wolves. And to have quality practice players for the starters to go against in practice. I bet Solo Young got a fast education by going up against grownassman Merrill Holden in practice.
Just gonna be so so so young this year. Kind of expect a season like TCU's or Iowa's last year.
Will Carter have put on enough muscle and developed his game? (apparently not)
Can Young contribute as a rookie? (eventually, heck yeah)
Is Holden the rim protector Fred never had, a real difference maker? (nope)
How good is Bowie really and will he play the 3? 4? 5? (still not sure lol)
Wiggington, Lewis seem like sure things, but they are freshmen. Let's try to have some patience and not expect Monte 2.0 on day 1.
The transfers? I expect they will play more early than late in the season, at least one will barely play at all, and there will be much carping about Prohm's transfer recruiting. Frankly, to some extent they are there to buy time and eat minutes so you don't throw the freshmen totally to the wolves. And to have quality practice players for the starters to go against in practice. I bet Solo Young got a fast education by going up against grownassman Merrill Holden in practice.
Just gonna be so so so young this year. Kind of expect a season like TCU's or Iowa's last year.
I hope McNeil gets a true shot to earn minutes. I think he has a ton of potential. McNeil and Wigginton have the potential to be a really explosive backcourt with time. I like McNeil's length, speed, and play making ability. He can handle it and he can shoot it. I understand he is going to need to work on his body, but I think Jackson has some limitations due to his size too. I would like to see a rotation that includes 2 of these guys on the floor at a time (Wigginton, Jackson, and McNeil). All can handle it and all can score. None by themselves can handle it like Morris did.
I then think NWB, Long, and Lewis will battle for minutes at the other wing spot. The most productive guys play.
I think Solo, Hans, and Beverly will get most of the post minutes. I hope Lard is shocking great and steals a bunch of minutes from the transfers. And then maybe the reports on Konsongo are wrong and he is a stud in the middle.
I then think NWB, Long, and Lewis will battle for minutes at the other wing spot. The most productive guys play.
I think Solo, Hans, and Beverly will get most of the post minutes. I hope Lard is shocking great and steals a bunch of minutes from the transfers. And then maybe the reports on Konsongo are wrong and he is a stud in the middle.
Unless NWB plays some pg/primary-ball-handler minutes, McNeill will almost assuredly get a chance to play imo. I actually could see NWB playing pg though.
