Misc: How long will Mike Quade last?

[CyDude16]

Not getting Sandberg was a BIG mistake.

No, no it wasn't. Its a tough situation that the cubs are in right now. No manager could do anything about it.

Sad enough, i can't remember the last game i turned on. I stopped watching after the last Cardinals series. I just check their website every now and then to see how they are doing.

Then you follow it up with a post like this? Hilarious, but not surprised with how you've reacted in meltdown threads about ISU, and giving up your fanhood.

 

[jbindm]

Not getting Sandberg was a BIG mistake.

Gotta disagree. With the collection of overpaid "talent" plus the injuries to the pitching staff, nobody could win with this year's group. For the state that the franchise is in right now, hiring a Cubs legend would only mean that sooner than later they'd have to fire a Cubs legend.

Give Quade another season after this one. This year's roster is a steaming pile of ****.

 

[Clark]

Gotta disagree. With the collection of overpaid "talent" plus the injuries to the pitching staff, nobody could win with this year's group. For the state that the franchise is in right now, hiring a Cubs legend would only mean that sooner than later they'd have to fire a Cubs legend.

Give Quade another season after this one. This year's roster is a steaming pile of ****.

I agree on both counts.

I'm willing to give Hendry a pass on the Zambrano and Soriano contracts, because more times than not, those decisions come from the people writing the checks not the GM. I'd give Hendry another year as well. If the Cubs don't improve next year then you completely clean house with a new GM and manager.

 

[Brentwood]

Speaking of the Cubs, former Cub Ryan Theriot had an RBI single tonight that pushed Theriot's hitting streak to 15 games, the Majors' top active streak.

Every team in baseball (including the Cardinals) would take Darwin Barney over Ryan Theriot in a heartbeat

 

[CycloneErik]

Now I'm really confused. Rebecacy doesn't like having the Cub threads, but now he's participating in them? Or trolling in them? Or something?

 

[CyDude16]

Now I'm really confused. Rebecacy doesn't like having the Cub threads, but now he's participating in them? Or trolling in them? Or something?

He's trolling. Tried making us jealous that Theriot is doing well for the Cards, when he was shown up by stats that Barney is putting out slightly better numbers for a fraction of the salary and 5 years younger he disappeared.

 

[CycloneErik]

He's trolling. Tried making us jealous that Theriot is doing well for the Cards, when he was shown up by stats that Barney is putting out slightly better numbers for a fraction of the salary and 5 years younger he disappeared.

Oh, I know. I may not actually be confused by his posting. He's petty transparent. Oh, I mean pretty transparent. My bad.


But back on track....Quade deserves at least 1 more year, and probably 2. I don't often see the point in firing somebody after 1-2 years, especially when they inherit this roster.

I find it impressive that almost every veteran of note has managed to get injured all at once lately. The odds of that are almost inconceivable, but he has to manage his way through that, the aging of the roster, and bringing up guys with almost no MLB experience yet. It's a tough job.

 

[Swanson10]

I agree on both counts.

I'm willing to give Hendry a pass on the Zambrano and Soriano contracts, because more times than not, those decisions come from the people writing the checks not the GM. I'd give Hendry another year as well. If the Cubs don't improve next year then you completely clean house with a new GM and manager.

I don't see how you can let this happen, but then again he will probably get it because of his days at CU and the possible emotional attachment with the Ricketts. I was told years ago, mainly hearsay, that the BOD is perfectly happy being the "loveable losers" for the simple fact of ticket sales still being above average for what the deserve. I don't see the Cubs winning until this mentality is changed. I thought it would with a "fan" becoming an owner, but I am already starting to doubt it.
I wont be watching until Hendry is given the boot.

 

[pikecy10]

So I have a few thoughts on this whole Cubs/Manager situation that is probably going to be a bigger issue by the end of this season.

It is pretty obvious that this team will be nothing short of mediocre for the remainder of this season, and ultimately I think Cubs management knew this to start the season. Having a Cubs legend in Sandberg manage this team would have killed his standing with the fans and would have been a no win situation. It also helped Quade for when the Cubs part ways with him, in that he now has big league experience and can get another job when the job will ultimately go to Sandberg in 2013 (i agree that quade will be here this year and part if not all of next season).

As for the team, you look at a few players that you want to build a franchise around, and the Cubs actually look pretty decent. With Soto, Castro, Barney, and one of the young outfielders like Campana or Montanez, the Middle of the field looks pretty set for the long haul. Filling in big bats at the corner of the infield and outfield is a big need going forward as Pena, Rammi, Fukudome, and Soriano wont be around much longer at all. I unfortunatley am not too up with who might be available going forward in free agency, but partially using the farm system and going out and finding someone for 1 or 2 of these spots would be a great fix in my opinion.

Pitching is a toss up for me. There are a lot of talented pitchers on the roster, but no consistency at all. You know that this pitching coach wont last more then this season with how things are going, but I cant put my finger on 1 guy who either needs to go or is someone to build a rotation around. I hope Cashner turns into a #1 starter and Garza figures out NL hitters, but who knows?

In summary, expect Sandberg and the Cubs to pubically make up somtime later this season or early next year, and he will return to the team in some capacity, and be the manager by the start of 2013, unless Quade makes a deal with the devil to make this team preform.

 

[jbindm]

I don't see how you can let this happen, but then again he will probably get it because of his days at CU and the possible emotional attachment with the Ricketts. I was told years ago, mainly hearsay, that the BOD is perfectly happy being the "loveable losers" for the simple fact of ticket sales still being above average for what the deserve. I don't see the Cubs winning until this mentality is changed. I thought it would with a "fan" becoming an owner, but I am already starting to doubt it.
I wont be watching until Hendry is given the boot.

That's funny you bring that up. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I used to suspect the same thing. Why invest heavily in your roster when roughly 3/4 of your sellout crowd is going to show up just for the Wrigley experience no matter what happens on the field? Better margins, right? Then they started throwing huge money at the wrong guys, and I realized that they really are trying to field a winning team; the problem is that they're just failing in spectacular fashion every year.

 

[CP44]

LOL - Ryan Ludwick has the 8th most RBI's in the NL. Good job Mozeliak.

Btw we got westbrook and now have replaced him with berkman... im glad we made the trade... you can have ludwick and his .215 average

 

[CP44]

Every team in baseball (including the Cardinals) would take Darwin Barney over Ryan Theriot in a heartbeat

he and castro the only position players the cubs have that i would take over what we have.... but yes we would

 

[CyCy]

Mike Quade is a problem
Jim Hendry is a bigger problem
Crane Kenny is a bigger problem
Tom Ricketts is the biggest problem

I don't see where Ricketts has any clue - he thinks Hendry is doing a good job. I think Ricketts is in way over his head - he's just a Cub fan who extended himself too far to buy the Cubs and has no baseball management sense.

What good does it do to bring in new players if Hendry is the guy making the decision. Ricketts needs to hire a proven winner as team president and allow him to hire a competent general manager. That would be a start.

 

[CyJack13]

Mike Quade is a problem
Jim Hendry is a bigger problem
Crane Kenny is a bigger problem
Tom Ricketts is the biggest problem

I don't see where Ricketts has any clue - he thinks Hendry is doing a good job. I think Ricketts is in way over his head - he's just a Cub fan who extended himself too far to buy the Cubs and has no baseball management sense.

What good does it do to bring in new players if Hendry is the guy making the decision. Ricketts needs to hire a proven winner as team president and allow him to hire a competent general manager. That would be a start.

How is Quade a problem?

 

[AllIowaTeams]

I disagree with those who disagreed with the poster saying that not hiring Sandberg was a mistake. Not only would Sandberg have pumped a ton of enthusiasm into the organization, and increased fan support, but he has actual playing experience. Sure, Quade "played" in the majors with absolutely no success. Sandberg was a star in the majors, and knows how to handle the egos of other stars. Quade does not. Furthermore, Sandberg took over a Lehigh Valley team that was an awful 58-86 last season. This season they are currently 32-20 under Sandberg. Sandberg was the CLEAR choice when the position came open, and the Cubs blew it by not hiring him. Karma is a ***** sometimes.

I'm not knocking Quade here just the hiring decision. Quade can't help that the Cubs currently have a Double A caliber rotation, or the fact that the guys who are supposed to be his best players are sucking for the most part. Do I think Sandberg would be doing a ton better? No, but I do think he would be doing better, and long term it's a no brainer in my opinion. Plus, the Cubs just got punked by the friggin Astros and the friggin Pirates. You can't tell me either of those teams has more talent than the Cubs even with the injuries the Cubs have had. Sorry to the Cubs apologists here, but they blew the hiring decision in a big way.

 

[Incyte]

I disagree with those who disagreed with the poster saying that not hiring Sandberg was a mistake. Not only would Sandberg have pumped a ton of enthusiasm into the organization, and increased fan support, but he has actual playing experience. Sure, Quade "played" in the majors with absolutely no success. Sandberg was a star in the majors, and knows how to handle the egos of other stars. Quade does not. Furthermore, Sandberg took over a Lehigh Valley team that was an awful 58-86 last season. This season they are currently 32-20 under Sandberg. Sandberg was the CLEAR choice when the position came open, and the Cubs blew it by not hiring him. Karma is a ***** sometimes.

I'm not knocking Quade here just the hiring decision. Quade can't help that the Cubs currently have a Double A caliber rotation, or the fact that the guys who are supposed to be his best players are sucking for the most part. Do I think Sandberg would be doing a ton better? No, but I do think he would be doing better, and long term it's a no brainer in my opinion. Plus, the Cubs just got punked by the friggin Astros and the friggin Pirates. You can't tell me either of those teams has more talent than the Cubs even with the injuries the Cubs have had. Sorry to the Cubs apologists here, but they blew the hiring decision in a big way.

What major league ball club hired this "clear choice" as manager? That's right. None.

 

[gocubs2118]

I disagree with those who disagreed with the poster saying that not hiring Sandberg was a mistake. Not only would Sandberg have pumped a ton of enthusiasm into the organization, and increased fan support, but he has actual playing experience. Sure, Quade "played" in the majors with absolutely no success. Sandberg was a star in the majors, and knows how to handle the egos of other stars. Quade does not. Furthermore, Sandberg took over a Lehigh Valley team that was an awful 58-86 last season. This season they are currently 32-20 under Sandberg. Sandberg was the CLEAR choice when the position came open, and the Cubs blew it by not hiring him. Karma is a ***** sometimes.

I'm not knocking Quade here just the hiring decision. Quade can't help that the Cubs currently have a Double A caliber rotation, or the fact that the guys who are supposed to be his best players are sucking for the most part. Do I think Sandberg would be doing a ton better? No, but I do think he would be doing better, and long term it's a no brainer in my opinion. Plus, the Cubs just got punked by the friggin Astros and the friggin Pirates. You can't tell me either of those teams has more talent than the Cubs even with the injuries the Cubs have had. Sorry to the Cubs apologists here, but they blew the hiring decision in a big way.

What does playing in the MLB have to do with managing? And no, this fan base wouldn't be enthused right now if Ryno would have been the manager.

 

[CycloneErik]

We're the Cubs. We're always an enthused fan base.

This year, we're frustrated, but we knew this team would be like this.

 

[AllIowaTeams]

What major league ball club hired this "clear choice" as manager? That's right. None.

Nothing personal, but that was not a well thought out post. Last I checked Sandberg didn't play his entire career with those other teams, and would therefore not be a "clear choice" for any of those clubs, especially since most of those clubs retained their managers. C'mon man.

Edit: And clearly the Phillies think he will be the man seeing how he was hired to be the heir apparent once Manuel is done. The Phillies were all over hiring Sandberg faster than you can count to 3 once the Cubs didn't hire him.

 

[gocubs2118]

The empty seats in Wrigley would tell me this fanbase isn't enthused right now and I don't think a different manager would change that. Better talent would change that.