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IHSAA to ban 2 a days
- Thread starter kingcy
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I get what you are saying...but it really isn't "2 weeks" anymore...most HS football programs in this area begin "fitness" camps/skill sessions/practices (without a football mind you) in spring! If 2-a-days were the first days of practice then I have no problem with them...but they aren't. Football is almost year-round now...they just don't put the pads on until August.
I don't understand this concern...there is no competition between Iowa HS football teams and teams from other states. Who cares if an Iowa HS football team is in USA Today's top 25 HS football teams. If you are talking about the development of HS football players so they can reach the D1 level...D1 programs will find the kids who meet their needs just as the NFL finds college players by "measurables". I love watching HS football but my enjoyment won't be enhanced because these "kids" are practicing all summer long or 8 hours a day for the first two weeks of August.
It setting Iowa High School players further back compared to other states was exactly the reaction I had to this.
Hey I got sick during two a days once and actually had sit out the year, but I think this is a stupid idea. My intestinal infection would have happened whether I was in two a days or not, it just probably made it worse. I really think that kids playing football not in top shape are more at risk than they are if they participate in two a days that are run smartly.
Your right D1 coaches will find them, but they won't be from Iowa. This hurts both Iowa and ISU because the instate players will now be even further behind what their counterparts in other states are, so in essence it shrinks the pool of Iowa D1 level talent that both schools can go after.
You should have just ended your post after the first sentence. Or left it out, because the other sentences make it plain you don't understand.
Football requires repetition. Speaking as an interior defensive lineman, every practice that was spent doing drills made me a better player. As much as I hated two-a-days, those practices, along with the football camps that I went to, were what made it possible for me to play at the Division I level. One of the things that made me stand out from other players (other than size) was my ability to read the blocks as they develop and to take on the trap, hold my gap, and take on the running back before he could get to the second level. The less reps I got, the worse my sensitivity to feeling those blocks would have been, and the worse football player I would have been.
Long story short, these kids need all the practices they can get.
Do you not see how many top recruits come out of Florida + Texas each year compared to Iowa? They obviously have more people, but even adjusting for population the difference is huge. I guarantee you they won't be banning 2-a-days anytime soon.
& again, if a kid doesn't want to make an all-year commitment to football, maybe they should join the drama club instead. This ain't peewee anymore bucko.
I would think those who wanted to succeed at the D1 level would be capable of working out on their own accord if they wanted to make it to the next level. This is pretty much the case nowadays anyway, people who dreamed of playing sports in college put in the extra effort to get there on their own.
Nothing was ever wrong with 2 a days. We always practice early to stay out of heat and if it was suppose to get too hot we practiced longer in morning and watched film for playbook reason in the afternoon. Never saw anything bad about doing it.
Iowa is such a soft state.
Iowa is such a soft state.
And to add on to that, since for some reason editing my posts won't let me save at times, why not spend all the practice time on drills and practice? Kids can work out on their own, coach doesn't need to be there. Those saying these kids should be able to handle it, well they should be able to push themselves in work outs without a coach doing it for them as well. Step up and be a senior leader and organize workouts.
Yes a kid can work out on their own but they only do so much. As a linebacker I could do agility drills, lift weights, and run all day long but that isn't a substitute for an actual practice where I can make reads, take on blocks and wrap up the ball carrier with proper breakdown and form.
To those attacking me for saying Iowa HS is not in competition with those from other states...it is NOT the purpose of a HS football program to develop D1 talent. First off you have to have D1 material in the first place if you are going to develop it. Second, if a kid has the talent and size or speed...he will get an offer regardless if he practices year-round or if he only played 2 years of football in his life!
I appreciate the fact that there is support for 2-a-days...but in my opinion it has NOTHING to do with kids being soft...it has to do more with kids getting coached year-round regardless of the rules. Most kids don't come into August needed extra fitness work because they were told they had attend fitness camps that start the day school gets out. And most of the programs in this state start taking attendance for skills sessions/fitness sessions right after spring break.
Also...I agree that the more reps you get the better you might be. What matters is that everyone you are competing against should play by the same rules. My point about Iowa not competing with other states is exactly that! All schools you play against should play by the same rules. Those of you who think it is a HS football program's primary purpose to develop kids so they can play in college is fine but check out the numbers. How many HS football programs in Iowa have a kid on their roster who will play for a D1 college? Is your answer to making that number higher that they should practice more? If so, fine...but I just don't agree with that.
I appreciate the fact that there is support for 2-a-days...but in my opinion it has NOTHING to do with kids being soft...it has to do more with kids getting coached year-round regardless of the rules. Most kids don't come into August needed extra fitness work because they were told they had attend fitness camps that start the day school gets out. And most of the programs in this state start taking attendance for skills sessions/fitness sessions right after spring break.
Also...I agree that the more reps you get the better you might be. What matters is that everyone you are competing against should play by the same rules. My point about Iowa not competing with other states is exactly that! All schools you play against should play by the same rules. Those of you who think it is a HS football program's primary purpose to develop kids so they can play in college is fine but check out the numbers. How many HS football programs in Iowa have a kid on their roster who will play for a D1 college? Is your answer to making that number higher that they should practice more? If so, fine...but I just don't agree with that.
You can still do that with the new rules...how many exposures does a HS kid need? Is one 3-hour practice a day not enough to do that? At what point is it too much? I respect your opinion...just stating how I feel...
You are right...it isn't peewee football (that is another topic and it makes me want to puke when I see 4th graders out practicing football until dark running sprints because some dad/coach thinks this kid is the next Adrian Peterson)...it is HS football! Kids who are 16 - 18 years old! Are you saying we should be just like Florida and Texas? If so, then go to your local school boards and demand that they hire a full-time football coach that does nothing but coach football year-round. See how that goes over...sorry for those who are reading this that fit into the age group I mentioned above and are offended by being called a "kid"...no disrespect intended.
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I only went through one year of two-a-days. I realized at 5-8 and 140 I probably wasn't going to get any PT at a 4A school. Now at 240 I could probably play fullback.
The worst thing I remember about two-a-days was putting on that jockstrap that was still wet from the morning.
The worst thing I remember about two-a-days was putting on that jockstrap that was still wet from the morning.
First, I never attacked you.
Second, I agree it is not IHSAA's job to develop D1 athletes. But it is my opinion that they shouldn't put rules in place that would inhibit athletic development and I feel this inhibits the development.
Thirdly, When I was at ISU we lifted all year, ran all year, had spring football, had player organized 7 on 7, could watch film anytime we wanted but we still needed 2 a days in order to to make ourselves better players and a better team unit. I get that kids can do various workouts all year round on their own and that's great, but there are a lot of things you learn from practicing with your team.
I shouldn't have used the word "attacked"...my bad. And I do respect your opinion and agree with what you stated in the quote above. Football is a great sport and one of the best things about football that people who never played won't quite understand is the camaraderie between the team members that can be built in a locker room! It is a great sport for sure. I just don't think exposing kids to 2 three-hour practices a day for the first two weeks of August is necessary. And you know there are HS coaches who would do that to kids. Anyway....time for me to start getting excited for the MBB game tonight (and to get some work done).
Have a great weekend!
