IHSAA to ban 2 a days

VeloClone

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I have no data to back it up, but I would guess that many more players have been injured by poor technique than have ever been injured or sick due to two a days.
 

NATEizKING

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This isnt true. When I was in the best shape in High School I would lift for 30 mins and run for 30 mins in the morning before school. It made a huge difference.

Not sure what your post has to do with two-a-days could you expand?
 

klamath632

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Explain what a typical day is for you as a high schooler doing two-a-days

Let's see.

I woke up at 6:15 and complained loudly.
I spent ten minutes (maybe) on hygiene and drove to the 7:00am practice.
I practiced for two hours and complained loudly.
I showered, drove home, and went to sleep.
I woke up and drove back to the 3:00pm practice.
I practiced for two hours and complained loudly.
I showered, drove home, and ate dinner while complaining about two-a-days. Then I drove to friends house, hung out, and ate dinner there too. Got some more complaining about practice in.
I went home, played video games, and fell asleep.

Started the cycle over again the next day.
 

weR138

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The best way to keep kids from complaining about two-a-days is to institute three-a-days. Yes, we did.
 

NATEizKING

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Let's see.

I woke up at 6:15 and complained loudly.
I spent ten minutes (maybe) on hygiene and drove to the 7:00am practice.
I practiced for two hours and complained loudly.
I showered, drove home, and went to sleep.
I woke up and drove back to the 3:00pm practice.
I practiced for two hours and complained loudly.
I showered, drove home, and ate dinner while complaining about two-a-days. Then I drove to friends house, hung out, and ate dinner there too. Got some more complaining about practice in.
I went home, played video games, and fell asleep.

Started the cycle over again the next day.

I was hoping for a more football specific typical day, as in what did practices involve, what workouts were included in your day, etc. I'm getting bored of this subject though.
 

CycloneNorth

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To me two-a-days are a huge part of high school football, but they do wear you out. I remember being too tired to play video games. All I wanted to do was sit and do nothing.

I loved it though and would give anything to go back for a season.
 

Rabbuk

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The problem I have two-a-days is that HS football practices (at least in the Cedar Rapids area) have evolved past the 3 hour mark. Waste of time! What more do you need to accomplish by having 3+ hour practices...and then you feel the need to have the kids return later in the day for more? If two-a-day practices were 2 hours or less...I could understand. They are in HS! Let them have lives as well...HS football is becoming as much of a year-round sport as HS basketball is. That is not right...we wonder what happened to all of the 4 sport athletes...they are out there but many of their HS coaches won't allow them to play 4 sports anymore because their isn't enough time in a summer day to meet each coach's expectations!
CRWASH what what, Lombardi has turned that place into a college in terms of practice.
 

wartknight

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This is a pretty standard practice schedule
<Each practice the same except one is focused on Offense and 1 on Defense>
8:00 Specialists out on field working whatever it is they do. Kickers/punters/Snappers, QB/C exchange
8:15: Warmup <official start of practice>
8:30 Tempo period- Plays on air to set a good tempo for practice
8:35 SPecial teams (Focus on a different one each practice)
8:55 Break
9:00 Individual period (focused on run game)
9:15 Team Run period (used to be "inside" period but with spread offenses now all 11 are involved)
9:30 Invidual Pass/7 on 7
9:50 Team
10:10 Conditioning
 

awd4cy

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Let's see.

I woke up at 6:15 and complained loudly.
I spent ten minutes (maybe) on hygiene and drove to the 7:00am practice.
I practiced for two hours and complained loudly.
I showered, drove home, and went to sleep.
I woke up and drove back to the 3:00pm practice.
I practiced for two hours and complained loudly.
I showered, drove home, and ate dinner while complaining about two-a-days. Then I drove to friends house, hung out, and ate dinner there too. Got some more complaining about practice in.
I went home, played video games, and fell asleep.

Started the cycle over again the next day.

Sounds like you probably shouldn't have been in football if you hated it that much.
 

CY22

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Sounds fine to me. My HS coach didn't believe in two-a-days, and I guarantee you we were one of the better conditioned teams in our district. He was in the CR gazette this past fall (Coach Ted Rogers, unfortunately he passed away), and I really appreciated how he went about things.

Get to practice, stretch, run, go over plays until you're sick, maybe do some drills for 5 minutes or so, then do more plays, finish practice with 20 yard sprints or 40 if we really sucked that day at practice. Doing it that way we didn't waste anytime, and how we went over plays you knew exactly what you and everyone else's responsibilities were. So overall, very well disciplined team however we just needed more athletes to make it to state (first team left out of the playoffs every year I was on varsity in HS).

In short, if coaches can figure out how to run an efficient practice, I don't see how this can be detrimental to teams across the state.
 

wartknight

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Sounds fine to me. My HS coach didn't believe in two-a-days, and I guarantee you we were one of the better conditioned teams in our district. He was in the CR gazette this past fall (Coach Ted Rogers, unfortunately he passed away), and I really appreciated how he went about things.

Get to practice, stretch, run, go over plays until you're sick, maybe do some drills for 5 minutes or so, then do more plays, finish practice with 20 yard sprints or 40 if we really sucked that day at practice. Doing it that way we didn't waste anytime, and how we went over plays you knew exactly what you and everyone else's responsibilities were. So overall, very well disciplined team however we just needed more athletes to make it to state (first team left out of the playoffs every year I was on varsity in HS).

In short, if coaches can figure out how to run an efficient practice, I don't see how this can be detrimental to teams across the state.

Or a more diverse playbook to make up for the lack of athletes which is what teams that are in the playoffs have. Thus more time needed to spend at practice.

What you describe is a very old school mentality that used to work when teams spent very little time practicing defense and had 1 base defense that they lined up in the entire game. Defenses anymore are getting nearly as complex as offenses.
 

Tailg8er

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Using a team that didn't make it to state as an example of why no 2-a-days can be just as good doesn't seem like the greatest argument to me...

We got a former d2 college coach my junior year of hs who instituted 2-a-days. My senior year we went to state for the 2nd time in school history. (small 4a school where most of us played both ways + special teams)

Obviously the 2-a-days alone didn't take us to state, but I do think they helped..
 

wartknight

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Just to appreciate the thought process here of what went on
-A couple years ago they expand the playoffs making kids who make it all the way play 6 games in 25-ish days (full contact)
-Now we have to limit contact and the preparation they can have for that run 3 months earlier
 

NATEizKING

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Using a team that didn't make it to state as an example of why no 2-a-days can be just as good doesn't seem like the greatest argument to me...

We got a former d2 college coach my junior year of hs who instituted 2-a-days. My senior year we went to state for the 2nd time in school history. (small 4a school where most of us played both ways + special teams)

Obviously the 2-a-days alone didn't take us to state, but I do think they helped..

I think you're underestimating yourself, maybe it was just you.
 

NATEizKING

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Just to appreciate the thought process here of what went on
-A couple years ago they expand the playoffs making kids who make it all the way play 6 games in 25-ish days (full contact)
-Now we have to limit contact and the preparation they can have for that run 3 months earlier

The IHSAA is pretty smart. I loved all the stupid rules they had for soccer in high school, such as sitting out the rest of the half for a yellow card.
 

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