IHSAA to ban 2 a days
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This is a shame....hell, wrestling we had 2 practices a day throughout the season. One before school then another 3 hours after.
Plus, 2 a days are like a foreign language immersion program, it helps the team bond in addition to working your *** off.
Plus, 2 a days are like a foreign language immersion program, it helps the team bond in addition to working your *** off.
It's trickle down. What a college program does today, a HS will replicate it, and I'm sure the NFL trickles down conditioning programs to colleges, etc.
Yeah I saw it. Not sure what you mean by "why not spend all the practice time on drills and practice?" From my experience in practices we did spend all of our time doing drills and practicing.
Your right Seniors can step up, be leaders and organize a practice, but it is just going to be a 7 on 7 type practice because I highly doubt the school would allow the players to use their pads without coaches present.
I don't see the big deal. Our high school, which likes to consider this a football town even though we have won two football games in the last three years combined, basically practices all summer and refers to it as "open field" or some such nonsense. I'm sure they will find a way to cheat, not that it is going to help matters any.
Ok when I was in high school I lifted all year, ran all year, ran track in the spring, had 7 on 7 in the summer and still needed 2 a days in order to make ourselves better and be a better team.
Does that work for you?
When I was in high school, we (those of us who cared enough) lifted weights all year. There were only a few of us who did it, but it's good for you. The best time to build strength is during the offseason. The weightlifting you do in-season is typically just to maintain your strength level (or it used to be, keep in mind I'm 39 now so it's been awhile).
Again, those who want to be D1 athletes can do things on their own and the coach can spend all of his one-a-day practice on teaching and drills. I'm pretty sure high school athletes know they need to be in shape if they want to play.
Even moreso than personal skill development, this is going to have an effect on the complexity of offenses and defense that teams run and that is something that college coaches take into consideration. The Iowa FC Coaches Association often has stated that they are committed to making Iowa HS football the best in the country. Being a member I hardly can think the leadership is happy with this decision.
I would have rather seen them put a weekly hourly limit on coach/player contact and let the coaches decide how to use that.
Also, IMO, a 3 hour practice is way too long. Kids cant stay focused that long, and most kids aren't in shape to be practicing that long. This will lead to more injuries than having 2 practices during the day. Really going to hurt the smaller 4A's that have a lot of guys going both ways as they are going to have to be very efficient with their practice time while Valley, Dowling, SEP, Johnston, and maybe the Ankenys have guys only practicing 1 way.
I would have rather seen them put a weekly hourly limit on coach/player contact and let the coaches decide how to use that.
Also, IMO, a 3 hour practice is way too long. Kids cant stay focused that long, and most kids aren't in shape to be practicing that long. This will lead to more injuries than having 2 practices during the day. Really going to hurt the smaller 4A's that have a lot of guys going both ways as they are going to have to be very efficient with their practice time while Valley, Dowling, SEP, Johnston, and maybe the Ankenys have guys only practicing 1 way.
Everyone on our team HATED 2-a-days, but we never once questioned their necessity. Football's a complex sport that requires all the practice time you can get if you want to be competitive. I didn't feel as though it was too much for a person at that age to handle; it built character. I'd do it all over again if I could.
Its not being in shape that the kids need to be successful. That happens as part of practice. All of the 2-a-day practices were spent on teaching and drills. Maybe 10 mins at the end of 1 of them for conditioning. The game of football is a lot more than just 22 guys pushing each other around.
Someone mentioned peewee earlier, and talked about how it made them sick how coaches would push those kids. I don't think you realize the drive that some of these kids have. I am constantly amazed by how much my daughter wants to work on softball.
She just turned 10 this week. She does:
agility/strength training workouts (1.5 hr) on Monday nights
pitching clinics (1 hr) on Tuesday nights
(travel team) hitting practice (1 hr) on Thursday nights
weightlighting (45 m) Saturday morning
hitting clinic (1 hr) Saturday morning
pitching clinic (1 hr) Saturday afternoon
(travel team) practice (1h 45m) Sunday afternoon.
Her travel team coach sent out an email saying that he had gotten our practice facility available to the team on Wednesday nights. I politely replied to the coach, letting him know about the schedule above, and telling him that my daughter needed some nights off during the week.
Then I picked up my daughter at school that night and told her about the email, and she yelled at me about how she wanted to go to the Wednesday practice also. Yelled at me. I am amazed at the drive my girl has to play this game and excel at it. I cannot keep her off the field.
Remember that the next time you see some "poor kid" running hills and it "makes you sick." You might not know what you're talking about.
She just turned 10 this week. She does:
agility/strength training workouts (1.5 hr) on Monday nights
pitching clinics (1 hr) on Tuesday nights
(travel team) hitting practice (1 hr) on Thursday nights
weightlighting (45 m) Saturday morning
hitting clinic (1 hr) Saturday morning
pitching clinic (1 hr) Saturday afternoon
(travel team) practice (1h 45m) Sunday afternoon.
Her travel team coach sent out an email saying that he had gotten our practice facility available to the team on Wednesday nights. I politely replied to the coach, letting him know about the schedule above, and telling him that my daughter needed some nights off during the week.
Then I picked up my daughter at school that night and told her about the email, and she yelled at me about how she wanted to go to the Wednesday practice also. Yelled at me. I am amazed at the drive my girl has to play this game and excel at it. I cannot keep her off the field.
Remember that the next time you see some "poor kid" running hills and it "makes you sick." You might not know what you're talking about.
This isnt true. When I was in the best shape in High School I would lift for 30 mins and run for 30 mins in the morning before school. It made a huge difference.
The part I bolded is spot on. Most people completely under value how much actual practice and game situations add to the development of the player. I played football at a D2 school and it was eye opening to me when I realized how little I actually knew about football and proper technique and form, these can't be taught on your own. Practice is the only place where you can learn how to handle situations and reads etc.
One thing was very clear to me when I reported to camp in college. And that was the freshman who came from better programs or states that allowed spring ball and summer workouts were head and shoulders above other guys in being prepared to be a college player. Taking two a days away is going to hurt Iowa HS football. One of the key things about two a days that is being over looked here is it gives you a chance to have full contact game situations in the morning and then come back in half pads or just helmets in the evening. This allows the players to get conditioned but also have a lighter practice late in the day to focus on implementing things as well as working on proper technique. Now these kids are not going to have the proper time to get conditioned as well as implement everything and fully work on technique.
This is truly a bad idea. And agree if they want to keep this in place they need to open up to spring ball or summer team workouts without pads.
You need a coach to push you to that next level. You need a coach to make sure you are doing things right.
My first grader is the same way. We have never pushed him to do anything. He went to ISU basketball camp last summer as a gift from my parents and since then he plays bball either outside or on his nerf hoop down stairs for hours everyday. He asked for a set of dumbbells so he can start working out. He spends half an hour every night lifting his little weights and doing jumping jacks, sit ups, etc. He wanted to play bball this winter so we signed him up for a bball skills program and after every session he was asking the coach if he can stay longer and run lines and work on defensive slides, etc.
With how many kids are obese and playing video games all the time I don't ever intend to slow him down at all. We love that he is more interested in being physically active than anything else. Only problem is trying to get him to stop playing bball or exercising to work on his homework, that needs to change.
