Iowa State’s Most Bone-Headed Athletic Change?

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He was already a good OC at Iowa and we hired Duncan and Criner instead. He and Cooper both wanted the job when we hired Duncan
I ran into good ole Hayden one day in Ames and out of shock asked him what the heck he was doing in town. He was trying to convince our administration to hire Synder. I remember at the time being against Synder because I thought Hayden was the genius on that staff. Could not have been more wrong...
 

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Hard to believe we did this for the guy. It's almost like a statue, and before he did anything at all to earn it.
On paper (before any results) he was probably the best hire we’ve ever had to be honest. Everything he did pointed to success and honestly his recruiting was better than Rhoads
 

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Donnie squandered what Earle Bruce had built at Iowa State because he wasn't a very good coach and struggled to make adjustments. His teams would would start off strong but fade badly down the stretch. Criner was the coach after Duncan. He cheated and still couldn't win.

We should have hired John Cooper (later coached at Ohio State after Bruce) instead of Duncan.
The only difference between Duncan and Criner is Criner got caught.
 
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We should be selling beer for $12 for a 12 oz can. We could raise a ton of money, and not that many people would get very drunk and obnoxious at that price point.
 

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Things not done:
Not hiring Bill Snyder when he wanted the job.

Poor hires:
Hiring Jim Criner
Hiring Jim Walden
Hiring Bruce Van De Velde
Hiring that boob, Greg McDoormat. Horrible coach and immediately destroyed our basketball program.

As an institution:
1939-1942 by John V. Atanasoff, professor of Physics and Mathematics and Clifford Berry, Engineering Grad Student - It truly blows my mind that ISU doesn't make a bigger deal about inventing the computer. (Nor did the university capitally benefit financially from it at all.) Nothing regarding patents, etc... No marketing of it at all. No government contracts or investments came from it benefiting ISU.

I mean, the BIRTHPLACE of the first electronic digital computer was created at Iowa State University. You're welcome WORLD.
 
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I don’t think the Mangino hire was stupid.

It didn’t work, but he was the best offensive mind we could get, and it showed at times. That ‘14 team scored enough points to win more than it did, but the defense ALWAYS let them down.
 
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I don’t think the Mangino hire was stupid.

It didn’t work, but he was the best offensive mind we could get, and it showed at times. That ‘14 team scored enough points to win more than it did, but the defense ALWAYS let them down.
Courtney messingham was far dumber
 
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Letting Gable go to Iowa. Think how many national championships we would have at ISU if we had kept Gable, and if Cael could have built on that tradition...ISU could have had the strongest wrestling program for decades!
In retrospect, yes. But remember, by 1973 Harold Nichols was a legend having won five national championships in eight years and was 56 years old, with a few years left in him. But, definitely could have been handled differently.
 

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I don’t think the Mangino hire was stupid.

It didn’t work, but he was the best offensive mind we could get, and it showed at times. That ‘14 team scored enough points to win more than it did, but the defense ALWAYS let them down.

It was a weird hire. A very must last ditch effort to keep the wheels on.

Then it sounded like it got weirder as a square peg situation with CPR.

And then firing him became another last ditch effort on CPR's part.
 
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What do you think are the worst changes within or around the various programs? Parking, game-day traditions, cutting programs, etc?

Personally;

1 - Not using running Cy enough.
2 - Getting rid of the blimp in Hilton.
3 - Getting rid of the Helmet mobile at FB games.
4 - Plan to get rid of half the big parking between Hilton and JTS (BB parking is going to suck ass).
I'll disagree on the parking some. There are new lots going up around Scheman. If they do get the P&L type area in there, obviously those spots will be gone, but how fun would it be to stop in for some beers and food prior to a game at Hilton and then just walk in? That place will be crazy prior to MBB games. Plus for those forced to park a little further away, it would be a good stopping point to get out of the cold. I think it will work out fine.
 

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Boneheaded only in retrospect. How many people at the time could foresee what he built at KSU?
The only thing ISU had to do was to talk to the people around the EIU program, Fry was nothing more than the figure head, the real genius behind Fry winning those games was Snyder. Look at the Fry's record before Snyder joined his staff down in Texas.

For some reason ISU would not even give Snyder the time of day, and he was begging for the job. It helps ISU and it hurts EIU, to me, that is a perfect compo.
 

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I'm going to get roasted for this, and it hasn't happened yet, but I think the entire CyTown/JP&L/Entertainment District is going to be a massive disappointment / borderline failure.

If it goes through and gets built I hope I'm wrong, but I just have a hard time seeing the demand for it or where the volume of customers is going to come from to make things successful in there.
 

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I'm going to get roasted for this, and it hasn't happened yet, but I think the entire CyTown/JP&L/Entertainment District is going to be a massive disappointment / borderline failure.

If it goes through and gets built I hope I'm wrong, but I just have a hard time seeing the demand for it or where the volume of customers is going to come from to make things successful in there.

Shhh, we’re labeled haters if we say that. I fully agree though.

Decent sales on basketball days and that’s even questionable since most of the time people are already struggling to get there after work before tip off.

It’s not a destination place (ie concert venue) and not enough casual traffic during weeknights and summer to make it profitable, let alone a financial driver of any sort. Places with many times the realistic traffic barely survive.

Could be wrong, would be happy to be, but seems like a high risk, low reward gamble.
 
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