Iowa State Uniform Discussions (update: new basketball unis)

Draf

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I could be convinced that the "I-State" logo is the best ISU has had, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it is head-and-shoulders above all of the others that have been used since becoming Iowa State University in 1959. "I-State" has the benefit of being the longest used (15 years) and seen the most success.

But it is still a flawed logo, mainly due to being fairly generic, and being somewhat hard to read from a distance. The bevels and 4 colors make it more messy than it should be, and making the full switch to the 2-color and stencil versions would go a long way to making it more easily recognizable.
They have taken the bevels out of the "STATE" on helmets in recent years, but it is still in the "I." The beveling dates the logo. Simple two-color version would be better, especially on a helmet, and would be more timeless. All while keeping with our brand.

Left = beveled "I" Right = no bevels at all.

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I think the 3-D/bevel adds a little dynamic to I-State as a standalone logo, but as others have said it complicates matters when it's on a background.

But I have some difficulty when it's used as single-tone/stencil -- the slanted sides on top & bottom of the "I" look more pronounced (and I don't really like that aspect of it ... it should be just common 90-degree angles) and the outline looks too "thick".

If I'm describing it effectively.
 

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The Athletic Dept is asking fans what their favorite logo is on Facebook. They could edit the post and just ask everybody what years they went to school and the responses wouldn't change much.
I could probably get to this; my wife is a Facebook member, I am not. Wish they would post it here, on CF, also. So far, I haven't seen it.
The Ames logo isn’t my favorite, but I’d definitely buy some merch if they threw it on it. Or any of those retro logos that we don’t push, for that matter.
Now see, I go back and forth on this one. I mainly don’t like it a ton because of the blue in it. Other than that it actually is a pretty cool logo. Tons better than the boring as block I with the state in it. I can’t find the picture but I know I saw Breece wearing a black hoodie with this outline a few years ago and thought holy hell that would be badass to wear!
It might be nice to have some of the more 'favorite' unofficial logos, etc. maybe get put on a t-shirt or some gear, then go up for sale. Proceeds to NIL!!

I know these unofficial logos don't see the light of day anymore, because they are not "official". Doesn't mean they don't have worth and potential, fan interest.

Maybe if a current player had an old logo he / she (they) liked, they could have a means to sell it on a t-shirt or other gear? Proceeds to that person's NIL?
 

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Quote: "Now THAT looks like a college athletics logo set made with MS paint."

Well there are a lot of better design software than MS Paint, which I am not sure even works anymore. I'm sure t probably does, but I haven't used it in a long time.

My point is, so what? He is offering some design concepts. With concepts, detail and presentation isn't always the most important thing. Especially if you are not an advanced photoshop wizard. Draf is pretty good, btw.

Let's see something you've put forward recently?
 
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Quote: "Now THAT looks like a college athletics logo set made with MS paint."

Well there are a lot of better design software than MS Paint, which I am not sure even works anymore. I'm sure t probably does, but I haven't used it in a long time.

My point is, so what? He is offering some design concepts. With concepts, detail and presentation isn't always the most important thing. Especially if you are not an advanced photoshop wizard. Draf is pretty good, btw.

Let's see something you've put forward recently?
Relax, Francis. I don't have a dog in this fight particularly and I'm not a graphic artist either. Also, I don't have to crate logos on my computer to poke fun at someone who did. Particularly since it was not intended to be mean.

Give me Orrnados all day and I'd be fine.
 

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Relax, Francis. I don't have a dog in this fight particularly and I'm not a graphic artist either. Also, I don't have to crate logos on my computer to poke fun at someone who did. Particularly since it was not intended to be mean.

Give me Orrnados all day and I'd be fine.
OK, fine. Just seemed patronizing and mean to me. Especially to be commenting on someones' work / interest like that, as if it could be better. I mean MS Paint vs. Adobe Photoshop. How is a person who did the work supposed to feel?

If you say your post was unintentional, I can accept that. Poke fun at me next time, using Paint (even though I do not). I'm used to it.

I will try to relax now.
 

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I could be convinced that the "I-State" logo is the best ISU has had, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it is head-and-shoulders above all of the others that have been used since becoming Iowa State University in 1959. "I-State" has the benefit of being the longest used (15 years) and seen the most success.

But it is still a flawed logo, mainly due to being fairly generic, and being somewhat hard to read from a distance. The bevels and 4 colors make it more messy than it should be, and making the full switch to the 2-color and stencil versions would go a long way to making it more easily recognizable.
If a mark has to be manipulated or only works with a certain color background, it‘s an automatic fail. A logo should be simple and clean with no more than two colors, so it will pop on a uniform, shirt, hat or background. This is why the stencil and two color I-State logos look so much better than the 4 color multi shade looks. I still don’t understand why ISU doesn’t use the stencil gold logo on their cardinal helmet or two color logo on the white helmet.
Sounds like I'm in the minority,,,,, I like the logo we have now, the way it is now.
They have taken the bevels out of the "STATE" on helmets in recent years, but it is still in the "I." The beveling dates the logo. Simple two-color version would be better, especially on a helmet, and would be more timeless. All while keeping with our brand.

Left = beveled "I" Right = no bevels at all.

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I think the 3-D/bevel adds a little dynamic to I-State as a standalone logo, but as others have said it complicates matters when it's on a background.

But I have some difficulty when it's used as single-tone/stencil -- the slanted sides on top & bottom of the "I" look more pronounced (and I don't really like that aspect of it ... it should be just common 90-degree angles) and the outline looks too "thick".

If I'm describing it effectively.
I'll chime in. I like the 3-D beveled logo. We should keep it. It has it's place. I also agree with what's being said here, and what others have said in the past. There are times when the simpler 2-D logo and effect just looks better and is more appropriate.

I hope they do both and realize when to use them the most, change it up periodically.
 

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I'll chime in. I like the 3-D beveled logo. We should keep it. It has it's place. I also agree with what's being said here, and what others have said in the past. There are times when the simpler 2-D logo and effect just looks better and is more appropriate.

I hope they do both and realize when to use them the most, change it up periodically.
I also don't like how the bevel makes it hard to tell what our colors are. Because the darker cardinal and the highlight cardinal have roughly the same weight in the block I, it only serves to muddy our visual identity.

And if we look at what other schools have done, basically everyone else has retired beveled logos. Oklahoma St and Houston both moved to a one/two color design. TTU, UCF, and A&M all still have beveled logos, the difference being that they use black/white as the highlight color instead of another shade of their primary.
 

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Noticed Dekkers is wearing a Speedflex helmet again - must not have liked the new Axiom

Also, Jirehl is currently wearing a Vicis Zero2 (wore Speedflex last season)
 
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Give me Orrnados all day and I'd be fine.
Speaking of Orrnados, I call them Cynados now. Some on CF have noted that Johnny never liked to use them (preferred the Walking Cy, etc.), although they were used in football, etc., during Orr's tenure. So I started calling it the Cynado instead.

Anyway, IMO the Cynado is one of the best logos we've ever had (along w/ WalkingCy and perhaps WhirlyBirdCy - w/ no blue). Cynado is unique and says 'Cyclones' right away.

But I think a slight modification would be good, from the original. Make it a little old, a little new. It was unintentional, but Draf's mockup, above, see bottom pic, is presented with more of a tilt in the logo. It looks better that way, IMO.

What I've done was inspired by Draf, and of course @amestoplease (see top pic above). I've 1) tilted the logo about 20 degrees, or so, (present it that way on and off the helmet). And, 2) I slighly 'narrowed' it. Not a great deal, subtle, but noticeable. To me, it looked better slightly narrowed, especially when reversed, or flipped to the L side of the helmet.
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This is how I'd like to see a 'new' Cynado presented. Maybe then it could be approved and incorporated as an additional alternate logo?
 

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Speaking of Orrnados, I call them Cynados now. Some on CF have noted that Johnny never liked to use them (preferred the Walking Cy, etc.), although they were used in football, etc., during Orr's tenure. So I started calling it the Cynado instead.

Anyway, IMO the Cynado is one of the best logos we've ever had (along w/ WalkingCy and perhaps WhirlyBirdCy - w/ no blue). Cynado is unique and says 'Cyclones' right away.

But I think a slight modification would be good, from the original. Make it a little old, a little new. It was unintentional, but Draf's mockup, above, see bottom pic, is presented with more of a tilt in the logo. It looks better that way, IMO.

What I've done was inspired by Draf, and of course @amestoplease (see top pic above). I've 1) tilted the logo about 20 degrees, or so, (present it that way on and off the helmet). And, 2) I slighly 'narrowed' it. Not a great deal, subtle, but noticeable. To me, it looked better slightly narrowed, especially when reversed, or flipped to the L side of the helmet.
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This is how I'd like to see a 'new' Cynado presented. Maybe then it could be approved and incorporated as an additional alternate logo?
The "tilt" in the logos on the metallic cardinal helmet I created in the photo set are due to the tilt of the helmet itself. When worn, this helmet would be more level, thus leveling out the logo somewhat, too.
 

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I would love to see the I State as our 'official' logo on everything but would love if they switched things up for the helmets. Huge fan of the whirlybird or the 80s tornado. That way we keep our I State identity and use our unique cyclone name on our uniforms. Also think the 80s tornado would look AWESOME at the 50yd line of Jack Trice
 
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