Is your trust in CMC lost to fix this offense in 2023 and beyond?

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you realize alot of people projected us to go 5-7 or 6-6 this year, right?
Next press conference:

A lot of people projected a conference championship and a top 10 rating to finish 2021. So, if we can win one more game we finish on the lower end of projections and this season is a total success. Last season the expectations were just too high and we performed very consistently.
 

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you realize alot of people projected us to go 5-7 or 6-6 this year, right?
Haven't we lost 10 straight one score games? I doubt anyone projected that. Not sure KSU or oSu could do that if they tried. I'd have been fine with 6-6 in Dekkers first year until I saw how excellent our defense is...this record with this defense is just unacceptable. It's a Cy Young pitcher getting 0.5 runs/game support from his team. It's f#cking tragic.
 

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I've seen other head coaches make more corrections at half time than I've seen Saint Matthew make 10 games into the season.
Is this true? How many of our opponents have adjusted and performed better in the second half than the first half?

SEMO 10 offensive pts 1H, 0 pts 2H
Iowa 7, 0
Ohio, 3, 7
Baylor 17, 14
Kansas 14, 0
KSU, 7, 3
Texas 14, 10
OU 13, 14
WVU 7, 7
OSU 10, 10

Why aren't their coaches making adjustments at halftime?
 

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Is this true? How many of our opponents have adjusted and performed better in the second half than the first half?

SEMO 10 offensive pts 1H, 0 pts 2H
Iowa 7, 0
Ohio, 3, 7
Baylor 17, 14
Kansas 14, 0
KSU, 7, 3
Texas 14, 10
OU 13, 14
WVU 7, 7
OSU 10, 10

Why aren't their coaches making adjustments at halftime?

This is more about our defense than opposing offenses.
 
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Let's see what next yr brings. I sure as hell hope it isn't 4th and short with a shotgun run for loss.
 
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I feel awful for Dekkers, he's got talent.
I don't. Although the line play has been leaky at times, he has had as much or more time to throw than many of his predecessors. You might bring up WR drops, but drops happen every season, every team etc. He throws too many INT and isn't seeing the field well. He is not the primary issue, but he is exacerbating it rather than alleviating it at this point. It's on the coaching staff to help him along, but no, I do not believe we should feel bad for him. It's not like the QB situation out east, where Ferentz was willfully trotting an ineffective Petras out there every week to get slaughtered by the opposing team and the media. Thank God Iowa's schedule lightened up, or I was going to be very concerned for his mental health. Dekkers has 2x more talent than Petras does, and he has better pieces around him. So no, I do not feel bad for Hunter Dekkers.
 

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Not writing him off yet but it is definitely put up or shut up time for him IMO. He has proven he can motivate and coach BUT can he build and sustain beyond a short revival. Basically from where I stand the next 4-6 weeks will show what kind of manager he is.
 
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I’m feeling pretty discouraged about the direction things are heading. I don’t see a willingness to change. This is a common symptom of coaches who eventually lose their jobs. (Not saying Campbell will here anytime soon, but it’s similar)

It’s reminding me a lot of Matt Nagy in Chicago. He flourished early on in his tenure. But he refused to change when opposing teams caught on to some more predictable tendencies. It was “his way or the highway” and the Bears floundered thanks to it.

I don’t get the impression Campbell is willing to change how he runs things. I really don’t. This is what the greatest coaches like Saban and Gundy always recognize. It just feels like I’m bracing for the exact same staff and exact same boneheaded offensive schemes to return next year. It’s going to be painful to watch if this is what continues.
The beginning of this run of success we are on starts with him and Heacock deciding to change the way they play defense. And change it drastically.

I just don’t see him not trying to change. Whether those changes result in better offense is uncertain, but he is definitely going to change something.
 

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I don't. Although the line play has been leaky at times, he has had as much or more time to throw than many of his predecessors. You might bring up WR drops, but drops happen every season, every team etc. He throws too many INT and isn't seeing the field well. He is not the primary issue, but he is exacerbating it rather than alleviating it at this point. It's on the coaching staff to help him along, but no, I do not believe we should feel bad for him. It's not like the QB situation out east, where Ferentz was willfully trotting an ineffective Petras out there every week to get slaughtered by the opposing team and the media. Thank God Iowa's schedule lightened up, or I was going to be very concerned for his mental health. Dekkers has 2x more talent than Petras does, and he has better pieces around him. So no, I do not feel bad for Hunter Dekkers.
Disagree about the OL. This is the worst pass protection ISU has had at least since year 1 of Campbell, maybe worse. Some of that is probably due to #28 being gone and allowing defenses to be more willing to blitz and stunt. If KU runs their garbage stunt every play junk defense they did this year vs. a team with Breece, he goes for 300 yards. If we keep 7 in to block 5 like we did at times vs. OSU, ISU wasn't letting a free rusher nearly untouched.

There's something totally broken with pass protection this year. It hasn't been good in the past, but the number of complete breakdowns this year are well beyond anything we've seen the last few years. It isn't just a question of how much time a QB has, it's a question of how much time given how many you're keeping in protection vs. out in routes. This year ISU is staying pretty heavy in protection and is outnumbering rushers. That means easier to defend on the back end, but you're hoping to offset it by having lots of time.
 

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No, unless zero offensive staff changes are made this off season. At that point, if we're seeing what we're seeing now, then yes. Feelings aside for Kirk, he did what he needed to do a decade or so ago to completely retool things offensively and started to win 9+ games nearly each season since. Good coaches know and understand when changes have to be made. We'll see if Campbell "gets it".
 

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Talk of wanting to move on from CMC is laughable, but if he doesn't at least replace Myers it would be extremely disappointing.
There's very reasonable cases to replace Myers and Gordon. Possibly Manning. Possibly whoever WR coach is, as we don't see much development there...although we've gotten accustomed to having at least 1 stud receiver at all times. There's just not enough help after that.

With this many positions groups falling off, it may be easier to just start over on that half of the ball. I mean really, what position on the field actually looks good right now? Maybe give RB a pass for poor OL play and injuries?