I really hope Park beats out Noland for the #2 spot just because that means we could redshirt him this year. I think we could deal with one of the other guys at the 3 spot. I think it usually helps out the QB to redshirt and wait until he is fully ready before he is forced to take live snaps. Helps big time with confidence. Would also get 2 years between him and Park which would be nice.
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I really hope Park beats out Noland for the #2 spot just because that means we could redshirt him this year. I think we could deal with one of the other guys at the 3 spot. I think it usually helps out the QB to redshirt and wait until he is fully ready before he is forced to take live snaps. Helps big time with confidence. Would also get 2 years between him and Park which would be nice.
Kinda fun to read all the forecasts here about who will do this, who will not do that, who will start, who cannot possibly be ready to compete. Fun, because not one of us speculates with knowledge (who here claims insider knowledge?), imo, we all do no more than guess. And, guessing can be fun.
Human beings are not set art pieces, fixed in form and time. Not one of us can possibly know what will happen in the race to start at quarterback.
When one of us happens to guess correctly, no doubt he will claim his foresight was best when it just so happens his guesswork serendipitously matched the ebb and flow of human development. That is, he won a round at the craps table. Me? I'll guess Lanning will start. If not, I'll wager its Kempt or Noland. If not either of them, I'll bet on Park. If not him. . . .
Human beings are not set art pieces, fixed in form and time. Not one of us can possibly know what will happen in the race to start at quarterback.
When one of us happens to guess correctly, no doubt he will claim his foresight was best when it just so happens his guesswork serendipitously matched the ebb and flow of human development. That is, he won a round at the craps table. Me? I'll guess Lanning will start. If not, I'll wager its Kempt or Noland. If not either of them, I'll bet on Park. If not him. . . .
Of course nobody knows for sure...it is equivalent to insurance. Do they know that a person of a certain age, gender income level with a certain kind of car will or will not get into an accident. No but they make educated guesses based on the likelihood of this happening...do I think that everyone on here actual looks at all of the variables...no. But seeing things like Park taking a year off from football and not getting here until summer is a variable that will be hard to overcome. Can he? Sure. Like you said in the end only time will tell.
We should remind ourselves that some of the talent scouts in these threads were the same ones saying 8 wins last year was possible and 6 wins were probable!
You're right we should probably stop discussing football until after the first game and then only post stats from the game to avoid speculation and guessing.
Stop discussing? Who suggested that? It's the certainty with which some fans here write that I think is amusing. From their comments, no discussion is necessary because these fellows have no doubt - none - what will occur. For example, a couple or three posters here allow for no doubt that Lanning will start. It is a done deal.
Lanning might start, and might be the likely starter, but those fellows do not know that he will start, because they cannot know it. It's an unknowable, so fickle are the fates when dealing with human affairs.
Discussion is fun. Know-it-alls, not so much. But, then, maybe I'm wrong. . . . ;-)
If DeLira is going to be behind both Noland and Park, it would make sense for him to transfer to a school where is more likely to receive playing time.
We should have won 6 games last fall......at least. Toledo should have never been a loss. K-State should have never been a loss. Should have easily had another win between the Okie State game and the Iowa game. CPR screwed up big time. He had plenty of chances.
He's just like Warren last year. Everyone knows he's the better talent, but he's not starting until he's ready to start.
Going to have six to pick two from so maybe the odds are in our favor for a change.
Very true. Teams always lose close games but coaches don't always hand games to the other team like CPR.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Noland is #2 right now behind Lanning. Coaches, including Campbell, have already spoken very highly of him. If nothing else, he's a VERY hard worker it sounds like, and that will always pay off.
Campbell mentioned something about Noland being the only freshman to make some kind of top tier workout group. I guess he works extremely hard in the weightroom and in the film room from what I understand. Gotta love that.
Honestly I would be shocked if we see anyone besides Lanning starting game one. I think after summer practice is over he will have earned the opportunity to be the starter. Of course anything can happen, but I'd give it about a 99% chance of it being Lanning.
Now... if Lanning comes out and struggles in his first two games or something and can't move the football or put points on the board, then all bets are off at that point. I'm not sure if Campbell has a quick trigger finger at all or not? I don't know how long Campbell would leave Lanning in there if he struggles?
Campbell mentioned something about Noland being the only freshman to make some kind of top tier workout group. I guess he works extremely hard in the weightroom and in the film room from what I understand. Gotta love that.
Honestly I would be shocked if we see anyone besides Lanning starting game one. I think after summer practice is over he will have earned the opportunity to be the starter. Of course anything can happen, but I'd give it about a 99% chance of it being Lanning.
Now... if Lanning comes out and struggles in his first two games or something and can't move the football or put points on the board, then all bets are off at that point. I'm not sure if Campbell has a quick trigger finger at all or not? I don't know how long Campbell would leave Lanning in there if he struggles?
I recall Campbell very early on stating that in college football today you must have multiple QBs that are ready to play. It is unlikely that you will have one QB start every game and take all the snaps the way the game is played today. Campbell also stated that our lack of QB depth scared him from day one and that is why he made it a priority to add QBs to the roster that have the talent to play now. To me, its looks like Lanning is the clear cut starter and I think he will do great. If he gets hurt or doesn't play well, I am sure Campbell will have one of the other guys ready to go. In the past, the QB position has killed us. Seems like Campbell is putting the pieces in place to prevent this from happening again.
I think from the little knowledge that Campbell had on Lanning when he got the ISU job, he felt he needed to bring in at least 2 QB's that could have a chance to beat out Lanning.
I don't know how an incoming head coach could have watched the few games that Lanning played last year and not felt the need to try to recruit over him. Campbell probably watched a few game tapes from last year and determined immediately that we might need an upgrade at the QB position right away.
Now.... as offseason workouts and spring practice have gone on, it appears that Campbell has warmed up to the idea that maybe Lanning is good enough to be our game one starter? I think he has seen some improvement in him and sees what kind of leader he is.
But initially, Campbell didn't have any time to work with and made the quick determination that if nothing else, we needed some competition brought in at the QB position. And he's done that with Park, Kempt, and Noland. I think we'll have a VERY healthy competition now at that position and may the best guy win.
But I would guess that Campbell's views on Lanning's ability have grown somewhat over the winter months.
I don't know how an incoming head coach could have watched the few games that Lanning played last year and not felt the need to try to recruit over him. Campbell probably watched a few game tapes from last year and determined immediately that we might need an upgrade at the QB position right away.
Now.... as offseason workouts and spring practice have gone on, it appears that Campbell has warmed up to the idea that maybe Lanning is good enough to be our game one starter? I think he has seen some improvement in him and sees what kind of leader he is.
But initially, Campbell didn't have any time to work with and made the quick determination that if nothing else, we needed some competition brought in at the QB position. And he's done that with Park, Kempt, and Noland. I think we'll have a VERY healthy competition now at that position and may the best guy win.
But I would guess that Campbell's views on Lanning's ability have grown somewhat over the winter months.
