Jacob Park transfer QB

[tolfbfan]

We absolutely do need a backup qb. If he is 2nd string that is fine, and with the way Lanning runs he needs to be ready to step in and play if needed.

This staff had two good qb's fighting for the job most years at Toledo. Who ever gets it done will play.....or both may play. This staff has done that before also.

In fact, now that I have thought about it, I'm betting two QB's get reps in most games until one clearly wins the job outright.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

This staff had two good qb's fighting for the job most years at Toledo. Who ever gets it done will play.....or both may play. This staff has done that before also.

In fact, now that I have thought about it, I'm betting two QB's get reps in most games until one clearly wins the job outright.

I don't think Park will be ready for reps week 1. He's got a ton of arm talent and size but he's really behind in the mental part of the game, plus he won't even be on campus until summer.

The staff will do whatever they can to RS Noland as well I'm sure. Lanning will be relatively unopposed imo unless he plays and is bad for multiple consecutive weeks.

 

[tolfbfan]

I don't think Park will be ready for reps week 1. He's got a ton of arm talent and size but he's really behind in the mental part of the game, plus he won't even be on campus until summer.

The staff will do whatever they can to RS Noland as well I'm sure. Lanning will be relatively unopposed imo unless he plays and is bad for multiple consecutive weeks.

Unless Lanning clearly wins the spot by a wide margin, I suspect Noland will get one series a game as soon as he is up to speed. Keeps Lanning working hard and prepares Noland in case of an injury. I also think Noland will redshirt unless he is the only QB standing.

 

[CyFy]

Let me start by saying coaches don't bring anyone in to be a back up. They bring someone on because they think they can compete.

That being said I would have a hard time believing that a coach with all sorts of options on jobs would choose ISU if he saw a roster with the QB situation with 0 talent at that spot. My guess is he saw something in Lanning he liked. Not having any sort of option at QB would be a quick way to get fired. He brought in the other guys because he thought they could compete.

My main point being I don't think Campbell thought negatively of Lanning at any point. If he did and was willing to bet his career...he might be a little crazy

 

[Rhoadhoused]

Let me start by saying coaches don't bring anyone in to be a back up. They bring someone on because they think they can compete.

That being said I would have a hard time believing that a coach with all sorts of options on jobs would choose ISU if he saw a roster with the QB situation with 0 talent at that spot. My guess is he saw something in Lanning he liked. Not having any sort of option at QB would be a quick way to get fired. He brought in the other guys because he thought they could compete.

My main point being I don't think Campbell thought negatively of Lanning at any point. If he did and was willing to bet his career...he might be a little crazy

They brought Park in so they could redshirt Noland and still have 3 QBs available. They brought him in specifically because he's got a ton of physical potential. It's conceivable he could eventually be a starting QB but that doesn't mean they brought him solely to compete with Lanning or even think he'll be able to right away.

 

[CyFy]

They brought Park in so they could redshirt Noland and still have 3 QBs available. They brought him in specifically because he's got a ton of physical potential. It's conceivable he could eventually be a starting QB but that doesn't mean they brought him solely to compete with Lanning or even think he'll be able to right away.

With his situation I don't think Park will be able to really compete this year either. I hope what you said is what happens because I love the looks of zeb. I think he could be a 3 year starter but I don't want to burn a year of eligibility just because we don't have any other options as a back up.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

With his situation I don't think Park will be able to really compete this year either. I hope what you said is what happens because I love the looks of zeb. I think he could be a 3 year starter but I don't want to burn a year of eligibility just because we don't have any other options as a back up.

Exactly. And Park may not be an ideal starter given him not being on top of the mental aspect of running an offense but between him and Delira we should have a good safety net at QB2.

 

[CyInDFW]

I was at practice on Tuesday and Lanning was getting #1 reps with Noland getting a majority of the #2 reps. Starcevich and DeLira split #3 reps. I think you're misgrading DeLira.

Can almost guarantee Noland will be Redshirted his FR year. The staff didn't bring in two transfers on top of having DeLira to let Noland use up a year of eligibility. He will be groomed to be the foundation for the future, not the present.

 

[Fitzy]

Can almost guarantee Noland will be Redshirted his FR year. The staff didn't bring in two transfers on top of having DeLira to let Noland use up a year of eligibility. He will be groomed to be the foundation for the future, not the present.

That's definitely a safe assumption. But it's pretty apparent the staff believes he's at least the second best QB on the roster during spring practice... That's saying something. If Park can get in and compete, it'll be a lot easier to redshirt Noland.

 

[Stormin]

That's definitely a safe assumption. But it's pretty apparent the staff believes he's at least the second best QB on the roster during spring practice... That's saying something. If Park can get in and compete, it'll be a lot easier to redshirt Noland.

Thought he was "splitting #2 snaps". If I am splitting #2 snaps, am I the clear #2?? Or could it be the other guy I am splitting smaps with?

 

[Rhoadhoused]

Thought he was "splitting #2 snaps". If I am splitting #2 snaps, am I the clear #2?? Or could it be the other guy I am splitting smaps with?

I was at practice on Tuesday and Lanning was getting #1 reps with Noland getting a majority of the #2 reps. Starcevich and DeLira split #3 reps. I think you're misgrading DeLira.

Where are you quoting from?

That's definitely a safe assumption. But it's pretty apparent the staff believes he's at least the second best QB on the roster during spring practice... That's saying something. If Park can get in and compete, it'll be a lot easier to redshirt Noland.

I think this tells you what they think about Delira and why they brought Park in.

 

[klamath632]

You guys don't want to see the kind of team access I get. You'll be jealous.

Jersey Chaser access doesn't count.

 

[Stormin]

Where are you quoting from?





I think this tells you what they think about Delira and why they brought Park in.

One practice. Getting 26 out of 50 snaps is a majority.

We really have no idea. And it is certainly possible that Noland is #2 and the staff still is likely to RS him this coming year.

 

[tazclone]

Who ever can make the fastest read and deliver the most accurate ball will start. Campbell will mold the offense to whomever wins. I think it will be Joel because he is developing a relationship of trust and leadership with Campbell. HC would be insane to topple that mountain unless Parks is just money from day 1.

I hope Lanning can improve in this area. He simply needs to be a much better and more consistent passer. IF he can do that, he will be a damn good QB. Actually, he will be better than damn good. He has a lot of other intangibles that you can't coach.

The question is...can he become a consistent passer?

Lanning is now a RSJr. He has had three years of college coaching with three different OC's and two different QB coaches. Campbell/Manning and Hofher will be the 4th OC and the 3rd QB coach. That simply sucks for a player.
No matter who the coach, we have heard he needs to improve his footwork and his mechanics. That is where he will win/keep the job. Can he improve his footwork/mechanics? Keep skipping the ball to WRs and he loses it. Start hitting guys consistently on time and he will be great.

 

[tazclone]

IMO, he brought in the best recruits at QB that he could get. And why wouldn't he? Even if he thought that Lanning would be the likely starter.

Lanning is the ONLY QB on the roster with any experience. Besides Lanning, we have a RS Freshman DeLira.

Kempt was an Oregon State signee. Redshirted one year and a squad member one year. Did not play in any games. Went to Hutchinson JC for one year. Accepted a preferred walkon at Iowa State.

Do you honestly think the coaching staff is projecting Kempt to beat out Lanning? Seriously doubt it. IMO, they are giving a guy a shot with a walkon offer to see what happens. Maybe he can surprise and you risk nothing.

As far as Jacob Park is concerned, he was rated higher. And has 3 years to play 3. But he hasn't played football in over a year and a half. IMO, he has talent and fits roster in terms of eligibility. Thinking could be that he could develop into a backup at this time and has enough talent to contend at some point for a starting job.

IMO, Campbell likely saw some good things in Lanning's play last fall. Because there were some good things. Lanning also needs more development. No doubt. But I am also sure that Campbell considered Lanning to be the #1 QB and still does. Which is far better than having a QB with absolutely no experience at all. And Park and Kempt have absolutely no experience at all. Just like DeLira, Noland have no experience.

Kempt was an Oregon State signee. Redshirted one year and a squad member one year. Did not play in any games. Went to Hutchinson JC for one year. Accepted a preferred walkon at Iowa State.


Lanning was an Iowa State signee. Redshirted one year and a squad member one year. Played in one game on special Teams. Took over midway through a bad season after the OC was fired. Won one game and then saw the offensive numbers drop versus the QB he replaced, who a lot of fans thought sucked.


Just thought I would compare Lanning's first couple of years to Kempt :smile:

I am with you. I think it goes Lanning, Noland/Park and then whoever.

 

[tazclone]

I hope they have the OL put together. If not...doesn't matter who the QB is. Have a solid OL and we can be a KSU type of spread. Run the ball with Warren and Lanning and then play action. That system fits Lanning well.

 

[Stormin]

Kempt was an Oregon State signee. Redshirted one year and a squad member one year. Did not play in any games. Went to Hutchinson JC for one year. Accepted a preferred walkon at Iowa State.


Lanning was an Iowa State signee. Redshirted one year and a squad member one year. Played in one game on special Teams. Took over midway through a bad season after the OC was fired. Won one game and then saw the offensive numbers drop versus the QB he replaced, who a lot of fans thought sucked.


Just thought I would compare Lanning's first couple of years to Kempt :smile:

I am with you. I think it goes Lanning, Noland/Park and then whoever.

I would note that Kempt was NOT offered a scholarship after attending Hutchinson JC. Oregon State sucked even more than us.

The offense was more run oriented so I don't know how you would come to the conclusion that offensive numbers dropped. Mike Warren's offensive numbers went way up.

JMO, but I actually some spark in the team and we were in a position to win several games that I doubt we would have had a chance in with Sam.

 

[Fitzy]

One practice. Getting 26 out of 50 snaps is a majority.

We really have no idea. And it is certainly possible that Noland is #2 and the staff still is likely to RS him this coming year.

I'm not saying you're wrong about redshirting Noland, but I find it funny that you lead off by saying "we really have no idea" and then end by saying something is likely.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

One practice. Getting 26 out of 50 snaps is a majority.

We really have no idea. And it is certainly possible that Noland is #2 and the staff still is likely to RS him this coming year.

But obviously Fitzy meant Noland was getting a large majority of the #2 reps and even went as far as to say the next two guys split the #3 reps. He didn't even mention anyone else taking #2 reps.

Also, you saying in quotes "splitting #2 snaps" could give the perception among people reading that you are totally full of **** since nothing remotely close to that was said.



And I think it's obvious that Noland is the #2 right now and the staff wants to redshirt him. Park will likely get the #2 reps when he's on campus. Like I said, if that was consistently the rep distribution it would tell you more about what they think of Delira than anything else.

And I don't think Fitzy ever claimed that the one practice meant that's how snaps are always distributed, he was just passing along info from which you can make an education guess on how things are shaking out.

 

[Stormin]

But obviously Fitzy meant Noland was getting a large majority of the #2 reps and even went as far as to say the next two guys split the #3 reps. He didn't even mention anyone else taking #2 reps.

Also, you saying in quotes "splitting #2 snaps" could give the perception among people reading that you are totally full of **** since nothing remotely close to that was said.



And I think it's obvious that Noland is the #2 right now and the staff wants to redshirt him. Park will likely get the #2 reps when he's on campus. Like I said, if that was consistently the rep distribution it would tell you more about what they think of Delira than anything else.

And I don't think Fitzy ever claimed that the one practice meant that's how snaps are always distributed, he was just passing along info from which you can make an education guess on how things are shaking out.

Concerning DeLira, I really don't see him being a big factor going forward at QB at Iowa State. Noland is the future IMO. I actually see DeLira probably transferring after the spring to a Juco or a smaller school.

None of us know anything really. The only thing we do know is that Lanning is #1.