Jay Scheel - Union High School
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FIFY. And I guess we are about to find out about this theory of yours, aren't we? Pierschbacher and Lazard are likely going to be top-250 recruits, and scheel could work his way up there, too. There is some good talent in state next year.
First of all, I bet he plays a diff position in college. But if a QB, your analysis seems strange. Yes his delivery is weak, but did you mean to say back foot? Throwing off ones front foot with good balance is desirable.
I think you are right honestly, add in the OL Render from Indianola that Iowa has an offer out to and there should be some really good talent at the top of the state next year.
Sure some of the top recruits go out of state but there are top rated kids that stay in state as well.
Within the last few years all of these players were highly rated three stars or four stars.
Keean Davis
Austin Blythe
Brandon Wegher
A.J. Derby
James Morris
Brandon Scherff
Andre Dawson
Jordan Cotton
Kind of like the isu fans that claim any good prospect with a probable Iowa lean wants to pursue engineering. And to have the audacity to mention that he's a good student, like that favors isu. Iowa is often ranked higher
US Biomedical / Bio-Engineering Ranking 2011
There is more to engineering than designing roads, Indian.
Little bit of a twist there. That's like saying ISU ranks much higher than Iowa in some medical disciplines. Mainly veterinary. Kind of avoiding the point.
Yeah, and let's not forget Imagineering, too!
Herp-a-derp! :wacko:
Haha!
Edit: Would've repped you hiphopp, but I gotta spread it.
Well, my point is that you all bring up "he's rumored to be interested in engineering" way too often on prospects like this. What 18 year old boy that gets good grades isn't interested in engineering ever so slightly?
Iowa is ranked higher than ISU on a total basis. For whatever reason, people in this state, and in the DM media, put down Iowa. Many local HS kids look down upon Iowa. But it's a good school.
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I'm not denying that ISU is a good school, it is too. But I'm annoyed at how ISU fans play this game. The kid is from eastern Iowa, he is a big hawk fan, they were the first to offer, etc. ... Yet ISU fans honestly think: 'I know his HS coach , and the spiritual background that this kid was raised under would help him fit perfectly at ISU' or 'his free-flowing style as an athletic QB would much better suit him at ISU than Iowa' or 'He's interested in engineering, so he should go to ISU'. Give it a rest
Plus, people have been saying about him: athletic, spread QB = ISU. I really think that he'll be at another position in college, which will benefit him. Something a smart kid will have no problem understanding.
Iowa is ranked higher than ISU on a total basis. For whatever reason, people in this state, and in the DM media, put down Iowa. Many local HS kids look down upon Iowa. But it's a good school.
National University Rankings | Top National Universities | US News Best Colleges
I'm not denying that ISU is a good school, it is too. But I'm annoyed at how ISU fans play this game. The kid is from eastern Iowa, he is a big hawk fan, they were the first to offer, etc. ... Yet ISU fans honestly think: 'I know his HS coach , and the spiritual background that this kid was raised under would help him fit perfectly at ISU' or 'his free-flowing style as an athletic QB would much better suit him at ISU than Iowa' or 'He's interested in engineering, so he should go to ISU'. Give it a rest
Plus, people have been saying about him: athletic, spread QB = ISU. I really think that he'll be at another position in college, which will benefit him. Something a smart kid will have no problem understanding.
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First of all, wherever you are right now stand up and pretend like you're setting up to throw a long hard pass and go through the motion of throwing. Notice all of the weight on your back foot? Notice how it twists in the turf as you gain the full recoil that allows a long forward pass? Good. Now go back and watch the kid's highlight video and notice how he does just the opposite on every throw in the first half when he's throwing. He's leaning out over his front foot and never settles back to get good strength in his pass. So, yes, I did mean to say front foot. The issue is the same issue that we experienced with Jantz last season. This type of throwing comes with a lot of picks.
Second, UofI is not better than ISU in Engineering.
I went to ISU for undergrad engineering and Iowa for grad. No comparison, ISU is a much better program.
Nice try Hawk nitwit. Now convince anyone who knows anything about the subject that Iowa's engineering programs (such as they are) are superior to ISU's.
I'm guessing that if the kid was looking for an Ag School you'd say "Iowa is higher on a total basis and Hayden Fry put ANF stickers on things" and totally ignore that Iowa has no Ag school at all.
**** off! You have no reason to complain regarding ISU fans on Cyclone Fanatic discussing the merits of ISU's academics.
Read the link! I am not talking about engineering anymore! I am not trying to say that Iowa is better at engineering, they are not. Iowa is ranked higher as a university, for however much stock you want to put into the (somewhat stupid) rankings. And ISU fans ignore that, that is my point. ISU is better in engineering.
And to address the throwing thing, I know what you are saying, TXCyclones. But I think we are both oversimplifying. Please don't think I'm just plagiarizing from what I saw on TV or something. Before moving to TE late in HS, I played a lot of QB in HS and before.
I understand your 'back foot' statement. It's true. But it's also true that to say "you want to throw off you back foot" is VERY WRONG. We all know that in every sport, back foot, pivot foot is important. Baseball swing, football throw, baseball throw etc.
Now you stand up at your computer and pretend you are taking a 5 step drop from under center. You are a right handed QB. When you plant your right foot into the ground (your 5th step), immediately throw the ball. If you truly do this, your weight will be leaning back over your right foot (back foot) because of your momentum going backwards. And you will be throwing the ball with all upper body, nothing but arm and torso. Throwing off the back foot, results in lots of interceptions, as one's arm strength is way less. From this 5th step, you twist and plant like a pitcher, bringing your left foot forward and opening up your chest square to the target. The stride is a weight transfer from back to front and in this process the ball is released. This is where the power comes from, and this physical process can be translated to many sports.
I think this is what you were saying actually. But 'back foot' doesn't cut it. Neither does 'front foot'. I didn't watch his tape of Hudl, but it sounds like you are saying his BALANCE is bad. And if it is, you should have said that.
And to address the throwing thing, I know what you are saying, TXCyclones. But I think we are both oversimplifying. Please don't think I'm just plagiarizing from what I saw on TV or something. Before moving to TE late in HS, I played a lot of QB in HS and before.
I understand your 'back foot' statement. It's true. But it's also true that to say "you want to throw off you back foot" is VERY WRONG. We all know that in every sport, back foot, pivot foot is important. Baseball swing, football throw, baseball throw etc.
Now you stand up at your computer and pretend you are taking a 5 step drop from under center. You are a right handed QB. When you plant your right foot into the ground (your 5th step), immediately throw the ball. If you truly do this, your weight will be leaning back over your right foot (back foot) because of your momentum going backwards. And you will be throwing the ball with all upper body, nothing but arm and torso. Throwing off the back foot, results in lots of interceptions, as one's arm strength is way less. From this 5th step, you twist and plant like a pitcher, bringing your left foot forward and opening up your chest square to the target. The stride is a weight transfer from back to front and in this process the ball is released. This is where the power comes from, and this physical process can be translated to many sports.
I think this is what you were saying actually. But 'back foot' doesn't cut it. Neither does 'front foot'. I didn't watch his tape of Hudl, but it sounds like you are saying his BALANCE is bad. And if it is, you should have said that.
