Agreed about this, but not sure who our better option is to take that spot. I think Parker is probably a better wrestler than Degen, and will likely beat him head to head, but for some reason I feel like Degen is the one who will perform better at NCAAs.
Lineup? Parker at 149?
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What's chances Degen can make 41? I thought I've heard in the past he makes weight easier than the average 49, but looking at him it's hard to think he has much more to cut.
141
149
149 doesn't look near as strong on the top end as 141, assume these guys are all at the right weight. Flo has Parker & Gomez at 141 & both are 149
| Rank | Grade | Name | School | Previous |
| 1 | SR | Nick Lee | Penn State | 1 |
| 2 | JR | Yianni Diakomihalis | Cornell | NR |
| 3 | SR | Jaydin Eierman | Iowa | 2 |
| 4 | SR | Dylan Duncan | Illinois | 5 |
| 5 | SR | Dresden Simon | Central Michigan | 6 |
| 6 | SR | Chad Red | Nebraska | 7 |
| 7 | JR | Allan Hart | Missouri | 9 |
| 8 | JR | Clay Carlson | SD State | 10 |
| 9 | JR | Real Woods | Stanford | 11 |
| 10 | JR | Grant Willits | Oregon State | 12 |
| 11 | SR | Dom Demas | Oklahoma | 13 |
| Rank | Grade | Name | School | Previous |
| 1 | JR | Sammy Sasso | Ohio State | 2 |
| 2 | SR | Tariq Wilson | NC State | 3 (141) |
| 3 | SR | Yahya Thomas | Northwestern | 3 |
| 4 | JR | Brock Mauller | Missouri | 5 |
| 5 | FR | Kyle Parco | Arizona State | 6 |
| 6 | SO | Jaden Abas | Stanford | 7 |
| 7 | SR | Max Murin | Iowa | 8 |
149 doesn't look near as strong on the top end as 141, assume these guys are all at the right weight. Flo has Parker & Gomez at 141 & both are 149
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165
| Rank | Grade | Name | School | Previous Rank |
| 1 | JR | David Carr | Iowa State | 1 |
| 2 | SR | Austin O'Connor | North Carolina | 1 (149) |
| 3 | SR | Ryan Deakin | Northwestern | 3 |
| 4 | SO | Jacori Teemer | Arizona State | 4 |
| 5 | SO | Brayton Lee | Minnesota | 6 |
| 6 | SR | Kaleb Young | Iowa | 8 |
| 7 | JR | Quincy Monday | Princeton | NR |
| 8 | JR | Kendall Coleman | Purdue | 9 |
| 9 | JR | Will Lewan | Michigan | 10 |
| 10 | JR | Josh Humphreys | Lehigh | NR |
| 11 | JR | Jarrett Jacques | Missouri | 11 |
| Rank | Grade | Name | School | Previous |
| 1 | JR | Shane Griffith | Stanford | 1 |
| 2 | SR | Jake Wentzel | Pittsburgh | 2 |
| 3 | SR | Alex Marinelli | Iowa | 4 |
| 4 | SR | Evan Wick | Cal Poly | NR |
| 5 | FR | Keegan O'Toole | Missouri | 5 |
| 6 | SR | Luke Weber | ND State | 10 |
| 7 | JR | Travis Wittlake | OK State | 6 |
| 8 | SR | Anthony Valencia | Arizona State | 8 |
I guess I'm one of the few that would like to see Carr move up. He's said in the past he hates cutting weight and would likely move up sometime during his career. Supposedly Austin O'Conner is moving up from 149 so 157 gets tougher. I also think David is WAY too quick for Marinelli. Griffith could pose a problem, but David has beaten him in the past. And obviously, it makes the team way better to keep Parker and Degen in the lineup.
Interestingly Flo has Makhi Lewis, Hayden Hidley and Ethan Smith all at 174.
Interestingly Flo has Makhi Lewis, Hayden Hidley and Ethan Smith all at 174.
I think he moves up next year.
149 - Cam Robinson
157 - Younger Kraisser
165 - David Carr
149 - Cam Robinson
157 - Younger Kraisser
165 - David Carr
I agree I meant I can't see Degen or Parker not being in the lineup
On a team that has 2 AAs (not counting Parker’s covid AA) it would really suck to have to bench one of them.
Both have been hampered with injuries. Maybe going 149 is in Parker’s best interest in order to stay healthy
I agree with you. I have felt he would benefit by filling out his frame and increasing his horsepower for a while.
Isn't Parker a supersenior? In that context, six years is a long time to stay small. My fear is that he cannot compete with the bigger framed guys that are sucking down to 149. Similarly, moving to 157 would possibly negate Degen's entire game, as his length advantage would dissipate.
I'm not at all for starving wrestlers. But I'm also not for our wrestlers being undersized relative to the competition. Its a hard balance -- and I'm not convinced this staff is very good at it.
The debate on whether or not to cut down to a lower weight (assuming your the best guy at the higher & lower weights) is always a coin flip for me. There are tons of examples on both sides. Some guys have more success wrestling closer to their natural weight and others that have success in cutting down a lot (like Matt McDonough). I'm sure that we are all hoping that ALL of our guys are healthy for the whole year. Here's my projected "best" lineup:
125 - Hawaii (or Knopick)
133 - Redding (or the Russian & Redding redshirts)
141 - Parker
149 - Degen (Cam redshirts)
157 - Carr
165 - Schumacher
174 - Devine/Broderson/Fisher winner
197 - Cuban
Hwt - Transfer (Schuyler)
125 - Hawaii (or Knopick)
133 - Redding (or the Russian & Redding redshirts)
141 - Parker
149 - Degen (Cam redshirts)
157 - Carr
165 - Schumacher
174 - Devine/Broderson/Fisher winner
197 - Cuban
Hwt - Transfer (Schuyler)
