Massey Ratings have ISU going 4-8

[AuH2O]

The defense alone will be good enough to win more than 4 games but this offense has been figured out. They need to be less RPO centered, Brock can run that in his sleep but sometimes he's too robotic and teams are figuring out how to influence his choices, which results in them dictating what we do on offense. Texas showed teams how to play Brock last season and basically every team since has defended him similar to what they did. We need to be more proactive and put pressure on defenses rather than letting them decide what we will do. That may not mean chucking the ball deep, it may be getting guys like Milton and Jones involved in the running game, Kene or Lang getting touches in the passing game etc....

Not finishing drives, but 7.7 yards per play against a good Iowa defense is outstanding. Two games is a small sample size. While points being out of whack in either direction to yards per play can suggest a real problem in style or execution, it can also be something that's a bit flukish that normalizes as the season goes on.

 

[Cydkar]

I feel like we went through this same thing in like 2012ish (?) Non-stop preseason hype and the usual outcome.

We've played 2 games. We haven't gone through anything yet this year, basically.

 

[AuH2O]

It wouldn't. Both Massey and FPI were projecting us between 6 and 7 wins before the Iowa game. You lose that one, and it's down to 6. It makes perfect sense actually.

Correct - I think a more accurate way to look at it is by the probability groups.

They have ULM and KU as wins
They have OU as a loss
They expect ISU to go 2-2 against BU, TCU, TTU and OSU
They expect ISU to go 1-2 against WVU, UT and KSU

 

[surly]

This is true however we just played undoubtedly the best non-conference opponent compared to TCU, OSU, Baylor, TTU, and KSU's. That's tough to win on the road against Mississippi State, but Iowa is much better than Mississippi State this year. If we would've won the Iowa game, all of these percentages would be flipped.

If we go into the TCU game 3-1, all of the hype will be back that was here to start the season and that includes those working for the national media.

Sagarin has Mississippi State at #23 and Iowa at #37. So, your conclusion is at odds with others.

 

[surly]

FPI has Iowa at #21 and Miss St. at #24, so golly gee, not everybody agrees.

Yeah, that's interesting how they rank MSU above K-State too. Gotta love ESPN/SEC, SEC.

 

[fsanford]

Wake me when Baylor plays a P5 team oh wait their first one is in conference against ISU. Slackers...

Have WVU or KU played a P5 team yet? ACC is not even MAC caliber sans Clemson.

TCU plays Purdue who is without their starting QB, so not sure how to read them.

Cowboys beat those pesky Beavers on the road, OSU is the KU of the Pac 12 and that is really saying something

ISU, Texas, and KSU have played at least 1 legit opponent. KSU winning on the road at MSU pretty darn solid.

OU does not matter who they play they are just really good.

Pretty much a whole lot of nothing at this point, will see how things look end of October

 

[NoCreativity]

Sagarin has Mississippi State at #23 and Iowa at #37. So, your conclusion is at odds with others.

Iowa would roll Mississippi State this year, they just beat them 8 months ago when MSU was alot better program. Those rankings are a joke.

 

[surly]

Iowa would roll Mississippi State this year, they just beat them 8 months ago when MSU was alot better program. Those rankings are a joke.

The conclusion of a poster here was at odds with others who have invested in such things, that was my point.

 

[The Far Cyde]

4-8 seems a bit drastic.

6-6 seems about right.

Big 12 has been down the last few years. There are a lot of coin flips on the schedule.

 

[heitclone]

Wake me when Baylor plays a P5 team oh wait their first one is in conference against ISU. Slackers...

Have WVU or KU played a P5 team yet? ACC is not even MAC caliber sans Clemson.

TCU plays Purdue who is without their starting QB, so not sure how to read them.

Cowboys beat those pesky Beavers on the road, OSU is the KU of the Pac 12 and that is really saying something

ISU, Texas, and KSU have played at least 1 legit opponent. KSU winning on the road at MSU pretty darn solid.

OU does not matter who they play they are just really good.

Pretty much a whole lot of nothing at this point, will see how things look end of October

WVU played at Mizzou and hosted NC State. They haven't looked great but their schedule has been as tough as anyone in the league.

 

[Cyhops]

36% win probability at WVU??? Seriously? WVU will be in last place by the end of the year. I'm calling it.

WVU, Baylor, KSU, and we should all get better as the year goes based on history and the coaching talent, TT will be longer w/ the type of prog change and KU is a hot Q mark. In 3 years yeary team may be .500 in the conference and go to a bowl.

 

[SCarolinaCy]

ISU's defense will win them enough to get them bowling. If the offense can get it figured out they should be in the 8 win range pretty easy.

Kempt needs to be in the box helping to call plays.

 

[The Far Cyde]

4-8 seems a bit drastic.

6-6 seems about right.

Big 12 has been down the last few years. There are a lot of coin flips on the schedule.

 

[Gunnerclone]

you just quoted yourself.

 

[Rogue52]

Be glad the KU game is at home. With the way they play football, I think they be a tougher matchup than Texas.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Be glad the KU game is at home. With the way they play football, I think they be a tougher matchup than Texas.

does everyone have to post a hot take comment or thread on CF when they stroke out ?

 

[Rogue52]

does everyone have to post a hot take comment or thread on CF when they stroke out ?

How is that a “hot” take unless you only read the name on the front of the jersey? They just beat Tech and took Texas to wire on road. They have a similar makeup to OSU. If we sellout to stop their stud RB, they can beat us on edge. Their defense is better than Texas; however, their weakness is up-front. Texas is a hot mess right now unless they get healthy on defense.

 

[harimad]

you just quoted yourself.

Oooh! I love the "This Is Your Quote" game. Can I play too?!

Ahem. You just quoted the narcissistic nihilist known as @The Far Cyde .

 

[Cyinthenorth]

The thought of miles turning a dumpster fire like KU around just as fast if not faster than MC has done here makes me a little queasy

 

[Cat Stevens]

The thought of miles turning a dumpster fire like KU around just as fast if not faster than MC has done here makes me a little queasy

Wow. Just. Wow