Matt Campbell postgame quote
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We have over 700 posts in this thread alone. Aren't we discussing it? I'm confused.
Against KU there were a few plays in which holes were there but missed by the RB. Brock finds those holes and that would’ve likely been enough to make the difference. Against KSU we just need to get in to FG range at the end. I think a healthy Brock finds a way to get some extra yards like he did in Kinnick to get us there. So I don’t think 5-1 with a healthy Brock requires a huge mental leap.
Bruce had three 8-win seasons in a row and never had a building year once he got the program established. That was the old Big 8 which was no joke and there were only 15 total bowl games prior to 1980 compared to 40 bowl games in the Campbell era.
If you are saying Earle Bruce achieved mediocrity how exactly are you claiming Matt Campbell eclipsed that?
I'd put their performance pretty close as the coach of Iowa State. Campbell built a good program faster and Bruce sustained consistent success when his program was established.
One could argue that Campbell eclipsed Bruce with the 2020 season but the performance of the surrounding seasons does not support that consistency.
Finally, here are some coaches who were brought on by Bruce during his career, perhaps you have heard of them: Dom Capers, Pete Carroll, Glen Mason, Nick Saban and Jim Tressel.
Matt Campbell can be the best coach ever at Iowa State. I believe he still has to earn that as at best he has only matched Earle Bruce. It is all subjective and just my opinion but if Iowa State kept Earle Bruce during the 1980s think how different everything would be.
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Not much diff between old coaches and new, cept easier to get to bowls and maybe $4 mil bucks.
Love Earle Bruce. He had a culture at Iowa State. Lots of Ohio players. Good times. Earle left and it fell apart. Damn Woody Hayes.
You are correct about the old Big 8 being no joke. I think that was before scholarship limitations and what Bruce did with ISU back then against the Nebraska's of the world was basically impossible.
Boy did it ever, first Donnie Duncan and Jim Criner, it was flushed down the drain pretty quickly. I think Danny Mac deserves a lot of credit for just being able to bring any sort of legitimacy back to Iowa State. Things unfortunately didn't last long only a few seasons in the early 2000s and a lot of let downs.
One other thing about Earle Bruce, his Cyclone team still holds the record for the largest margin of victory over Iowa at 31-0.
I really want CMC to be the long-term success here. If they could just get a serviceable offensive scheme with that remarkable defense that's consistent.
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Not wishing anything other than just our team being the best version of themselves they can be!
Can't dispute the big Bruce seasons, and I have nostalgia for it because that's the early curve of my ISU fandom.
But for balance, wasn't he a bit on the hot seat after the three 4-7 seasons?
But for balance, wasn't he a bit on the hot seat after the three 4-7 seasons?
People are telling us to stop noticing things. Inconvenient things.
Stuff like Baylor just gave up 500 yards to WV.
No. I'm just saying that if we're going to lose every conference game, it's at least more entertaining if we actually score points. Maybe we turn things around and pick up a few wins at some point. But right now, we are by far the worst team in the conference. As good as the defense is, this offense is not going to win us any games. We are nearing iowa levels of offensive futility without the good special teams or defensive TDs. That's not a good combo.
I think most people here are willing to cut Matt plenty slack. Including me. He deserves it.
On the other hand, this is a discussion board, and we are discussing the woeful ineptitude of our offense. I don't think I'll have to eat any crow if our offense turns around soon, and I am hoping it does. We all want that.
If Matt can't handle a little criticism, his skin is too soft. His skin is not too soft, btw. He can handle it. He doesn't even listen to what's said here, so I'm not too concerned.
My first reaction to this was, Yes, he can lose his team, and his fans. I don't think he will. But you're right. He needs to be more diplomatic; and he is usually very much so.
That's the kind of identity you need like an ingrown toenail, a painful one.
I don't think we are talking much about his comment anymore. We are still talking about the elephant in the room, the offense.
We lost a couple close games that we had opportunities to win. The games were entertaining and the final outcome wasn’t determined until the gun sounded. Trust Campbell. Chill.
Oh our offense is horrible. I’m not arguing that. I was just calling out some of the hyperbole that was being thrown around here about how inexcusable it is in year 7 and essentially placing an expiration date on Campbell here.
Defense is better because our offense is poor. No team is going to put their best offense on show, (and risk we MIGHT gain an ounce of momentum) when the know we cannot score.
Just because we're close doesn't make it ok. 5-15 against +/- 3 point spread is a really bad stat. If we just did this or that... Ya that's coaching people. It needs to get better.
Campbell is not satisfied. Campbell is a great coach. Support him during these trying times. Trust him. Best coach in Iowa State history.
