NCAA messed it up!

[Revolution]

How long before there is a salary cap of sorts?

 

[Mr Janny]

How long before there is a salary cap of sorts?

Very unlikely. The NFL has a collectively bargained contract that establishes things like the pay distribution and salary cap. The CBA is what gets them around antitrust laws. So unless unionization comes to college sports, any kind of salary cap would be taken to court immediately.

Also, it would never get off the ground, even if antitrust laws weren't a factor.
The blue blood schools wouldn't ever agree to it in the first place. What's their incentive to give up a model that puts them at a huge advantage?

 

[Revolution]

Very unlikely. The NFL has a collectively bargained contract that establishes things like the pay distribution and salary cap. The CBA is what gets them around antitrust laws. So unless unionization comes to college sports, any kind of salary cap would be taken to court immediately.

Also, it would never get off the ground, even if antitrust laws weren't a factor.
The blue blood schools wouldn't ever agree to it in the first place. What's their incentive to give up a model that puts them at a huge advantage?

So then how long before all the have nots split from the blue bloods and we essentially have all of us being a farm club for them? Basically create two smaller leagues.

 

[Mr Janny]

So then how long before all the have nots split from the blue bloods and we essentially have all of us being a farm club for them? Basically create two smaller leagues.

If it happens, it will be the blue bloods that split from the have nots, not the other way around.

 

[AuH2O]

Love all the new transfer rules. Free agency drives a ton of interest in the NBA and NFL and this has allowed college to have their version of it too. Makes the off-season a whole lot more exciting.

Free agency drives offseason coverage of these sports because they are wildly popular. The NFL because the league is so wildly popular that offseason stuff takes precedent over in-season college sports.

The amount of offseason discussion of college sports will increase, but it's going from essentially zero nationally to slightly more than zero. Transfer portal guys are not national stories of any consequence. There's more coverage on NFL QBs taking a morning dump than the final four. People don't care.

An important CBB transfer will get noted in a commercial break between some baseball scores and noting that Deshaun Watson jammed a finger at minicamp.

 

[Mr Janny]

Free agency drives offseason coverage of these sports because they are wildly popular. The NFL because the league is so wildly popular that offseason stuff takes precedent over in-season college sports.

The amount of offseason discussion of college sports will increase, but it's going from essentially zero nationally to slightly more than zero. Transfer portal guys are not national stories of any consequence. There's more coverage on NFL QBs taking a morning dump than the final four. People don't care.

An important CBB transfer will get noted in a commercial break between some baseball scores and noting that Deshaun Watson jammed a finger at minicamp.

Ehh, there's more coverage than that. Emoni Bates transfer was front page on both ESPN and CBS Sports websites this weekend. And in non traditional sports media, transfer season has been worth a massive number of clicks on sites like this one. Think of all of the speculation threads on this site alone. And ISU is no different than other schools. Transfer season keeps the sport in people's mouths for longer. It drives views/clicks at a time when there previously weren't many. There's no denying that.

 

[AuH2O]

Ehh, there's more coverage than that. Emoni Bates transfer was front page on both ESPN and CBS Sports websites this weekend. And in non traditional sports media, transfer season has been worth a massive number of clicks on sites like this one. Think of all of the speculation threads on this site alone. And ISU is no different than other schools. Transfer season keeps the sport in people's mouths for longer. It drives views/clicks at a time when there previously weren't many. There's no denying that.

Getting traffic on sites like this or having a brief stint on the front of ESPN's website for a few hours is a lot different than the transfer portal "driving interest" in the sport. College sports transfers are going to be a big topic of interest to college sports fanatics, which frankly is a pretty small portion of sports fans overall.

 

[Mr Janny]

Getting traffic on sites like this or having a brief stint on the front of ESPN's website for a few hours is a lot different than the transfer portal "driving interest" in the sport. College sports transfers are going to be a big topic of interest to college sports fanatics, which frankly is a pretty small portion of sports fans overall.

That's a fair point. I guess, to me, it's not going to convert your non fan to a fanatic, similar to the way the NFL draft isn't going to be an entry point for a non NFL fan to become a hardcore fan.

It's about converting the casual fan to become more invested, and the non fan to become casual. And the longer your sport gets any coverage at all, increases that cycle.

 

[IFA Cyclone]

Schools are definitely free to try that. Seems like a good way to tank your athletic department in a hurry. Because as long as other schools are comfortable giving out full rides, your school "taking a stand" is more like pointing a shotgun at your own foot.

I would agree to that. I would rather see the NBA get rid of the one year out rule. To me that’s stupid. If a kid thinks they are good enough to play pro, then go and make some money and play pro ball somewhere (Europe, Australia, G league) then try to get to the NBA.
I just hate the narrative that student athletes get no compensation for competing in athletics. Most college students would love to go to college for free, get free room and board, the best food, best tutors, best training facilities, healthcare. Just my opinion but I hate the “we don’t get anything for playing” your get a free education that most have to pay for and will be more valuable in the end since most will never play professional ball or at least not make a life long career of it.

 

[Mr Janny]

I would agree to that. I would rather see the NBA get rid of the one year out rule. To me that’s stupid. If a kid thinks they are good enough to play pro, then go and make some money and play pro ball somewhere (Europe, Australia, G league) then try to get to the NBA.
I just hate the narrative that student athletes get no compensation for competing in athletics. Most college students would love to go to college for free, get free room and board, the best food, best tutors, best training facilities, healthcare. Just my opinion but I hate the “we don’t get anything for playing” your get a free education that most have to pay for and will be more valuable in the end since most will never play professional ball or at least not make a life long career of it.

It's not that they're not compensated. It's that there's no ability for a student to negotiate the level of compensation. It's artificially capped at the value of a scholarship.

That's where antitrust laws come in, and where the NCAA model was vulnerable to litigation.

The NCAA fought unionization tooth and nail, but if they would have allowed it, they would have had a lot more options when it comes to creating rules now.

 

[dirtyninety]

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